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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-09 04:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2868 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2868 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
The only one talking about 'owing' anything here is you. I suspect you're the same person making similar and equally misinformed arguments on the other fanfic secret, which makes me think you're taking both of these things rather personally.

For the record yes, I disagree with ALL forms of fanwork commission, and would neither offer nor pay for it in any shape or form.

The person OP's talking about has made the decision to charge for future updates, there's no mention of whether or not the fic would have been updated anyway if the author hadn't seen a potential to cash in on their readers in this way. That's what people have an issue with.

And yes, actual RL money IS a huge dividing line, not only on the legality side of things (no one considers e.g. art/fic exchange as being 'payment' in a monetary sense) and on the ethical sense of what fanworks are, i.e. labors of love. When you start attaching monetary values to these things and treating them as commodities, then that completely goes against what fandom has always been. Not only that but it runs the risk of drawing the attention of TPTB, who could go either down the route of clamping down hard on fanwork and fansites, or commodify it themselves. Either way it's the rest of us that lose out.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I got to your "ethical sense of what fanworks are" and LOLed away.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's easier to do than respond to what they're saying.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
In a sense, yeah. I've gone through too many cycles of arguing the same thing to bother putting effort into one more argument with someone like this. The person's already said they don't support commissioned fanart or fanfic, so the argument's pointless. At least they refuse to support both equally.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
DA

But that depends on your definition of "support."

I review and comment and reblog and leave writers and artists praise and gratitude for their work. I promote the stuff I love. I consider myself as supporting the writers and artists I enjoy, because the agreement you enter into when it comes to fanwork is that it's not-for-profit. To do so takes it out of the realm of what a lot of people consider the purpose of fanwork. YMMV.

I support the original source that allows them (and me) to create those works with RL cash, but if that became fandom's currency I'd be out the door in a second.