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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-09 04:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2868 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
This attitude was pretty prevalent in the LJ fandom days, too, so it's not just a "tumblr thing."
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-11-10 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
You may be right, but I don't remember it being like that in my circles at least. I do think it's grown more prevalent.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I certainly don't ever remember as much importance and weird sense of validity being assigned to "omg it's canon!" back in the day. Lately it seems as though there needs to be some kind of legitimacy requirement in order to ship things? Back in LJ days, we just... shipped. We didn't care about things becoming canon or not, and I don't even remember as much scouring the canon for evidence as happens now. I don't ever remember "Your shitty ship will never become canon!" as part of a hater's arsenal, because there was never any expectation of it.

Don't know if it's a Tumblr thing, per se, but it definitely feels a more recent trend. Or maybe I'm just in the wrong fandoms again.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-11-10 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
I think it may tie into stuff like needing "legitimate" reasons to dislike a character, or having to excuse bad behavior on a character's part. Nowadays, if a character gets branded as 'abusive' you need to go on this whole defensive shtick about how you don't support abuse yadda yadda (and you still might get people attacking you). I seriously don't remember that kind of stuff going on back in the day.
Everything needs to be justified, your ship, the characters you like/dislike, canon (lest it be problematic), etc.

Like you say, on LJ I think shipping meant more, "I think these characters could have an interesting dynamic" and less "canon is telling me they love each other". Though, there were ship wars then too, obviously.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
That's true, I don't think I ever made that connection before but it makes a lot of sense. You can't just like or dislike even the most trivial of things these days, you need a 10k word paper complete with footnotes and bibliography to back it up. And while some topics do certainly need some level of justification for your opinion if you don't want to look like a complete tool, I don't think "I ship this!" should be one of them.

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[personal profile] ketita 2014-11-10 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
otoh the flipside is when people express love for their ships by basically going
I Ca'nT these TRASH PISSBABIES omG I CnAT
and sometimes I just want to actually analyze the relationship y'know? XDDD