[ SECRET POST #2871 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2871 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP

For me, it's because I was bored. It's mostly the second one I don't like. I didn't mind spending a long time in Bag End in the first movie or any of that. But in the second one, my mind actually wandered a few times during the action scenes. The first time I saw it, it felt like it rushed from one scene to the next to the next -- especially the action scenes. There wasn't time in between to make the action scenes exciting when they showed up.

Also, I couldn't suspend my disbelief with the dragon versus dwarf thing at the end. The whole thing with the gold just didn't seem at all plausible, even stretched for the setting and movie logic. And the dragon being led around without killing anything diminished all the menace he had earlier. The ending made it seem more like he was tucking tail and running away like a kid who hadn't got his way.

And the love story (or whatever you want to call it) took too much time. During the second time I saw it, I could pinpoint the moment during the talk between the dwarf and elf in the dungeons where it should've ended but then it just kept going.

The pacing just was wrong for me.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I actually agree with you on the pacing. I wasn't exactly bored during the action scenes, but I felt like the movie was almost nothing but action scenes. They could have put in some character scenes, since we still hardly know some of the dwarves.

I didn't see a problem with the specific actions during the confrontation with the dragon, but I was a bit disappointed that it was once again an action scene. In the book he and Bilbo just talk and when he can't find Bilbo (or the dwarves) he sets out for Lake Town.

Hmmmm...I don't remember being too bothered by that 'love' scene. And they do need that time together if they're to fall in love, so when else? I think that's another pacing/adaptation problem. Some of the things that took days/weeks in the book seemed to only last moments in the movie. Now, the Harry Potter movies aren't masterpieces, but they do mostly manage to convey that weeks/months pass and keep the pace up, so these movies should be able to do that as well. But they didn't even try.

I'm making it sound as if I didn't like it now, but I did. it's just that I did notice its flaws as well. Also, I rewatched LotR not too long ago and some of those action scenes can get pretty boring too after a while. Though of course, that's a re-watch at home, not a first time viewing in the cinema. The latter should be a bit more exciting.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I agree about the weeks/months thing. That was something I noticed too. It seemed like they were in Mirkwood for only a day (we never saw a dark night) so it seemed like they got lost right away, which seemed a little silly. But I have *mostly* come to accept that movie distance/time is different than the books and ignore those issues.

I looked up my review of the movie and in it I said that the scene in the dungeons between the elf and dwarf should've ended when she gave the stone back. I agree that if they are going to do a love story (or whatever), it does need some time to happen. But I felt that what needed to be accomplished in that scene with regards to their connection had been accomplished at that point and everything after that made the scene drag and didn't add anything useful.

In the book, the dragon does attack them on the mountain side. That's what I expected and would've liked to see. I do sort of like that the dwarves have a chance to face off against the dragon. I think from a movie perspective, you'd kind of need that. But I wish the mechanics of it had been more believable to me. And I agree that the conversation between Bilbo and the dragon was far more compelling than the action sequence at the end.

I also liked more than disliked the film, but you probably can't tell. ;)