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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-13 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2872 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2872 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I keep hearing people explaining away the diminuitive "Missy" as "it's just her cover. She needed to come accross as friendly for her plans to work", but seriously it reeked over a deliberate dismissive attitude about her sex change from the part of the writers. :/

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
excuse the grammar, I am sick and clearly I need to go to bed. That was supposed to mean something like "it reeked of a" etc.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's deeply stupid, and I could certainly see an argument that it's misogynistic, but I'm honestly just hard pressed to see how it's a deliberate choice by the writers to be dismissive towards that specific aspect of the issue.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Missy is an actual girl's name, albeit one that's not that common in the UK. That's why it works.

I didn't see it being a diminuitive form as that relevant, except for the delicious irony as the Master is pretty powerful. Mad, but powerful. We were definitely were left with that impression.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't it short for Mistress? You know, literally the female equivalent of Master?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yep.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
The short form is what's being objected to.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
The implication that "Nurse" is so much less than "Doctor" when both are pretty important professions is a bit icky, but I thought that's what the comparison was aiming at?
philstar22: (Doctor Who: Eight)

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-11-14 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Except that unlike Master/Mistress, Doctor/Nurse are not male/female equivalents because doctor doesn't have gender attached.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
to be fair though, if we treat "Master" as an academic title which is what the fandom did for quite some time, then that one wouldn't have needed to end up gendered either.
philstar22: (Doctor 10 to 11)

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-11-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That's true. I haven't seen much of Old Who, and Simm's Master at least seemed to very much play it in the "I like to be in charge" sense, so that's what I assumed it was. LIke, the Doctor picked Doctor because he's a healer and the Master picked the Master because he has power issues.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
He's not a healer, at all! He picked it because he's a science professor, like a doctorate. It was originally a educational show and the name stuck. And him not being at all a medical doctor is a running joke.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but it has still very much developed into a thematic/symbolic thing. Not an actual Doctor but a metaphorical one. No one gives a shit what the ideas were at the beginning of the show in 1963 -- that's what makes this show so great.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not much of a Who fan--just watched Old Who on PBS when I was in my teens and early 20s--so I always figured the Master was called the Master because he'd finished his master's thesis, but never completed his doctoral dissertation. And he hated the Doctor because the Doctor had.
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[personal profile] othellia 2014-11-14 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
That... is amazing.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I knew a lot of bitter grad students.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's bloody brilliant.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well Moffat is a sexist, transphobic, homophobic, racist (he did fridge Clara's black boyfriend), rapist, so what does everybody expect from his writings?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
...how is moffat a rapist?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
rumore has it he raped both of his female exce producers and BBC paid the off to leave rather than have them press charges against their precious Moff.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
are these rumors substantiated in any way or is it one of those "richard gere totally put a gerbil in his ass" situations?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
i heard he's also a nazi

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
well I heard that he's literally a clone of Hitler and that sometimes he parks in handicap parking spaces even though he doesn't have a placard