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F!S, assuming that you could have chosen, consciously, to be born or not while having all the knowledge about your life as it has been up till now...would you have chosen to be born, or not?

Yes, because the nasty bullying and suicide attempt I made during high school now fuel me to reach out today to kids who are going through the same thing.

I wouldn't be who I am if the dark parts of my life never happened to me. EVERYTHING was worth it to become who I am and I would choose it again in a heartbeat.

I just want to say you sound awesome and I sort of love you just for existing.

Yes. The good and powerful weigh more than the bad.

I'm guessing this came out of an abortion debate.

Yes. I went through some crappy stuff, but I've gotten past and plan on contributing to the world.

That being said, no matter the crap I went through I had parents who loved me. And my life didn't suck nearly as much as other peoples. I personally say that no matter how bad things got, living is better than never existing. But that is just me. I can't speak for other people and their lives or for women making that decision.

OP: hey, no, it didn't come from an abortion debate actually.

I come from a more existential/philosophical discussion about whether or not life has inherent value, and the value of life when weighed against suffering.

It started with an older acquaintance talking about his now adult niece, who is disabled both physically and mentally, who should have statistically never reached her age, and who never had any prospects of improvement.

Basically her parents, both medical professionals, disagree on whether the value of her existing was "worth it" when weighed against the suffering.

Which then started a more general discussion.

Ah, okay. I'm just used to the pro-life members of my family bringing this up as an argument for why abortion is wrong.

It is an interesting philosophical idea, but to me it is so personal that I don't think it is something that can be strictly theory.

No. I'm a waste of life and everyone who knows me would be the same or better off if I never existed.

That's a tough one - objectively not, probably. But on a somewhat more narcissist level, the thought of not having had existed at all irks me.

What's the alternative?

Nonexistence?

Not that I have anything against it, but I'd choose to be born simply because I now have the nonexistence option open to me at any time. It just seems more logical to me.

OP: yes, the other option is not to exist. It's basically a hypothetical situation, obviously, since if you were conscious enough to make the decision you'd already exist.

I'd choose to never have existed. Life is just so boring. I can't justify its worth to myself, at least not honestly. I've recently decided to give living a real honest try, but so far I haven't found a motivating reason. Maybe when I find that something my answer will change, but for now, nonexistence still sounds good.

No.

Not that I'm depressed or think I'm worthless, I'm just lazy. I imagine being a consciousness that never gets born as a living being is like getting to sleep in. Forever.

Not OP

I'm not trying to make a big deal of this, but your comment actually really sounds like textbook depression. Apathy/ disinterest in life are symptoms too, not just sadness. Hope things start looking brighter for you soon.

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Yes, definitely. Good things and bad things happen, but I find there's just so much in the world to love and experience - people, places, things. If I could go back, I'd try to make some better choices, try to be bolder earlier on, and just not waste so much time on the small stuff.

Not. Easy one.

Not. My existence is an absolute null variable, and I'd prefer not to have gone through all the shit I have when the end result is I'm forgettable the moment I walk out of a room.

Nope. I'd prefer not to be here, but I didn't get a choice, so I'm stuck. Not that being here is bad per se, but when theoretically given the choice, I'd still say no.

NO NO NO NO NO NO FUCK NO

Not to sound ungrateful, but the bad has outweighed the good. I'd say no. Fuck no, even.

yeah, even though my life hasn't been all that great, and frankly i'm kind of shocked at all the nos you've gotten.

it is shocking to realize that other people have different feelings than you

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Based on the first twenty years of my life, I'd have chosen not to be.

Based on the last twenty years, especially the last six, I would have totally chosen to be born.

Why not? It could get better at any time. Maybe I'm just easily amused, but at least I'm not bored.

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