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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-13 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2872 ]


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Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Have you tried a job that doesn't involve people as much? For instance, warehouse assistant.

Or, perhaps, change the mode of interaction. Like, working as a livery cab driver. Or even a bus driver... municipal or education.

If retail is very bad, it's worth trying something else.

Maybe it will be so bad it will somehow wrap around to good, or at least indifferent.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
da

The problem with all of those options is they're shat on at a cultural level. The complete and utter lack of respect you get if you work in any of them - not just from customers, but also from managers, colleagues, and acquaintances - is absolutely exhausting.

The pay's crap, the hours are crap, and people treat you like you're subhuman because you weren't "good enough" to get a white collar job.
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Re: Encouragement that isn't.

[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-11-14 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
One of the trades? Plumbing, electrician, etc all command an acceptable salary and working conditions, whilst not exactly having tremendous social capital they're certainly considered above retail or equivalent.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
And they require a fair amount of up-front capital to get into, at least where I live - you need to take at least a year of courses before you can get a paying apprenticeship, and while it may not be as expensive as taking a degree program, it's not cheap. Saving up is possible (I've managed to do it for an entirely different training stream), but it's not easy, especially with the rising costs of living.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my gosh, are you serious? It's hard to get started in a trade? I always thought it was sunshine butterflies and free handouts.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
For someone who's only complaining and making excuses, be fucking thankful that you even HAVE a job at all today.

People are trying to encourage you because clearly they have a more realistic understanding of both the jobs market and life as a grown up than you do.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not OP. I have a job. I like my job.

I am just incredibly fucking sick of hearing people say "oh, just go get [jobs similar to mine]" like you can wave a magical wand and suddenly be a skilled tradesperson. It's not actually easy.

You need money for courses. You need to be able to support yourself while you take those courses. You need to be able to find an apprenticeship/learning placement. It's a hell of a lot of hard work, and not actually great advice for someone who's flopping around with no idea what they want to do in life.

You don't go into a trade because you want to do something that's a step up the ladder from unskilled positions, you go into a trade because you want to go into that trade. If you don't understand that, then no, you don't have a realistic understanding of either the job market or life as a grown up.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. It has never occurred to me to try not working in retail. I never would have dreamed that other jobs might exist somewhere in the multiverse that are more in line with my aptitudes. Thank God for your wisdom, internet stranger.

Re: Encouragement that isn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-14 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
well gosh, you're just so charming that I can't believe you haven't been hired anywhere else. reach for the stars xoxoxo