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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-22 05:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #351 ]


⌈ Secret Post #351 ⌋

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[personal profile] blackhearts 2007-12-23 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
047. LOL at all the people jumping to the defense.

"AMERICA IZ BAD 2!1!one!"

Did anyone say it isn't? Fandom seriously has this idea that Japan is super awesome and accepting.

  • Japan is known for using abortion as a birth control method. Actual birth control pills are not covered under insurance there, are incredibly expensive, and overall difficult to obtain. And Japanese dudes are culturally inclined not to wrap it up.

  • Japan is 98-99% homogeneous, and incredibly xenophobic. Have fun being the gaijin!

  • There is a an old proverb in Japanese culture: "If a nail sticks up, beat it back down." THIS IS BASICALLY THE PRINCIPLE UPON WHICH MODERN JAPANESE CULTURE IS BUILT. All those school uniforms that weeaboos so idolise? Are in place for a reason -- to get rid of individuality! My Japanese teacher once told the story of two girls who were expelled from school for dying their hair brown. All those neat lolitas and Harajuku girls are either wearing wigs, or dropped out of school and flip burgers at 'Makudonadosu'.

  • Young married women in Japan are expected to quit their job when that ring hits their finger. And they're expected to be knocked up within the year.

  • "The idea that same-sex attraction necessarily involves some kind of transgenderism or desire to be like or even become the opposite of one's biological sex is constantly reinforced by Japanese media which discuss homosexuality and transgenderism in the same context".(1) There's not really such a thing as two men loving each other in mainstream Japan -- one has to be the woman. Or maybe this just explains why yaoi fanbrats are so into crying men.


I could honestly go on and on and on. Are there fucked up things in other countries too? Yeah. Is it totally wrong that the OP brought up the bombs? Yeah. But Japan isn't some Garden of Eden or Shangri-La. Let it go.

[identity profile] charliequinn.livejournal.com 2007-12-23 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
No, Japan isn't perfect. Neither is my country, or your country.

However, as much as Japan has a bad reputation for being racist and xenophobic, America does as well (for your points, I could make the argument that American soldiers are killing thousands of Iraqui civillians for oil). And this person's secret (switch Japan for any country of your choice) compounds that, which is most likely why people are 'jumping to defence'.
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[personal profile] blackhearts 2007-12-23 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Find me a country with no racism. I dare you -- that country doesn't exist. And the vast majority of the time, where people see 'racism' in America, there is none; it's them being entitled. Oh, the white English teacher failed a black student? It's obviously racism, even though the student never turned in homework, or showed up to class.

And even if there weren't so many other points wrong in your 'example' of the Iraq war, I'd only respond that a) soldiers do not choose were they are deployed or what they are to do (therefore they do not 'kill Iraqis for oil'), and b) the nationality of those civilians has nothing to do with blood-for-oil. It just happens that the people living on top of the oil are Iraqi. And by the by, America doesn't have a problem fucking its own people over for oil, please see Alaska.

And how does this one person's opinion 'compound' America's so-called racism? Is that like how I am bad a math, and therefore all Americans are fucking idiots, regardless of all the brilliance to come out of this country?

Every country has good and bad points, I'm not denying it. But it's trendy to hate on America and idolise Japan without knowing anything about it, and, as someone who's studied both, I'm tired of it.

[identity profile] charliequinn.livejournal.com 2007-12-23 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, entitlement much?

Like I said in my original comment, no one country is perfect. People are just pointing out that America has it's own faults as much as Japan because the OP makes specific refrences to the US in the secret. It is not hard to then make the link that the OP is American. So, people are pointing out that America is just as flawed as the country they hate. If they made refrences to the UK or Australia, or some place else, same thing would happen with that country.

I do work with Defence Force and Reserve members everyday, you do not need to edumacate me about the so called War On Terror. The example I gave was as broad and open to personal opinion as the OPs reasons. Hence the use of it.

You may not realise it, but the USA does have quite a bad reputation internationally as being bigoted, homophobic, racist, stupid and war mongering. I know that that there are no more of those kind of people in the US that there are in any other country, so when I say it compounds it, I mean that, internationally, we get 'examples' of this kind of American 'ignorance' and 'arrogance' (again, this is not my opinion, just a popular one) all the time, and these kind of statements made by the OP don't help international's views of the average American.

Just like people from the UK don't sit around drinking endless cups of tea, playing cricket and making fun of the lower classes, I wouldn't go there and expect that to happen because that's what's on TV.

(Anonymous) 2007-12-23 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. You actually know nothing about racism :') Like, at all. And considering how imprompted your tirade was here... something tells me that your defensiveness has everything to do with the fact that you harbor and spew racist opinions.

You are a textbook example of the entitled hick white girl you doesn't actually understand the way the world works outside of her own privileged life, and can't wrap her mind around the idea that racism is an actual system, not a few shmucks saying that the coloreds are evil and nasty, or whatever.

Go read a book. Go study anti-racist scholars who have devoted their lives to deconstructing racism in America. Or... just continue to sit in front of your computer and tell yourself that racism barely exists in America anymore and pat yourself on the back. Whichever.

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-12-23 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
...I agreed with you up until this point. Japan is a far worse country from my own values' standpoint than America, true, but you're out of your goddamn mind if you think there isn't a fuckton of racism in the US of A.

(Anonymous) 2007-12-23 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, when I lived there, I didn't have any trouble getting birth control, and it wasn't that expensive, either (roughly $65 for four months). I think it's more the fact that it's just not something that is openly discussed with teenagers, and therefore, people grow up not really understanding that it's easy to get, and that it's also just the smart thing to do.

Also, I knew a lot of married women who didn't quit working just because they were married; a lot of single women I met seemed to rather wish they could get married and be taken care of forever and ever instead of having to work, which is lamer to me in a way, but that's just my opinion. Whatever floats their boats, really.