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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-15 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2874 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2874 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 074 secrets from Secret Submission Post #411.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 4 - random images ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You know that post was a hoax, right? The part of the guidelines that says they have the right to reproduce and resize your artwork is so that people can reblog it and that they can reformat it for mobile tumblr. Yeesh.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2014-11-15 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
...pretty sure the secretmaker knows that, yeah. The black text is the secret; the red text is what the secret is commenting on.

The thing is, Sturgeon's Law is universal, 90% of what is on Tumblr would make zero money if it was stolen and marketed -- but at the same time, some online artists do get their work bootlegged. There are artists I follow whose stuff has been, say, mass-produced on T-shirts without their consent. So when there are PSAs about sites that genuinely do steal your work, it's not wrong or self-important of anyone to reblog them. Even if your work is never personally affected, maybe the work of one of your followers is at risk. Or one of your followers' followers. Or maybe one of them would have purchased something from that site, unaware that none of the money was going to the artist, and now they won't. It's valuable to get the word out.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-15 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The black text is the secret;

And explicitly believes what the red text says. 'I agree this is a dishonest thing for tumblr to do' is exactly the opposite of 'that is not what it says'.

some online artists do get their work bootlegged.

Which has nothing to do with the secret.

It's valuable to get the word out.

About sites and people that actually do steal work. Not chicken little nonsense about sites trying to steal your work because of a misunderstanding of the necessary clauses to make their displaying your work not stealing it.
Edited (I accidentally a word.) 2014-11-15 21:55 (UTC)
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[personal profile] erinptah 2014-11-15 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The secret text says "it's really funny fandom thinks tumblr is after its [various types of art]," as if that's not a phenomenon that happens with any site ever, or as if all the work on tumblr is too terrible to ever be bootlegged. That's what I'm reacting to.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
pls actually read the terms of service before you make a before it

i'm revoking your rights to ever complain about tumblr btw

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
it is kind of funny that their criticism of tumblr actually embodies a totally different criticism of tumblr (that people just believe any old shit that gets reblogged whether or not it's true and that it's really hard to effectively correct misinformation)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, heck yes. I just had some relatively benign misinformation come across my Tumblr the other day. ("OMG this is totally a bunch of famous anime voice actors singing Frozen parodies!" Well, no, it's actually a bunch of fans singing Frozen parodies in voices trying to imitate famous anime characters; they're even credited all over the video if you can read Japanese) I reblogged with the information, in vain hope that it'd get noticed. Given that I have about six followers? Not terribly likely. In this case, all it means is that people are squeeing over the wrong thing, but I've definitely seen some toxic misinformation out there that I'd be helpless to correct...

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Good 'ol Tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So when Case turns on IP logging, she's selling it to Tumblr/Yahoo so they can sell our info to hackers?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
case isn't a chick

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
ARYT

*facepalm* I knew that. Really I did.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Duh, no. The FBI is the buyer, since they care more than anyone about ship wars and headcanons.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
That actually makes sense, since Scully and Mulder were both FBI agents, and were both the origin of the 'shipper' and the fabulous-but-never-used-anywhere-else 'noromo' terms.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
People on tumblr/other sites need to consult a lawyer before freaking out about things. I saw something similar in regards to a freak out about deviantart and usually all these TOS are doing is trying to cover their own ass for displaying your art in the first place.

None of these sites every hold your copyright or take it away, your work is always your own, plus do people realize the different between "copyright" and "registered copyright."
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-16 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
People on tumblr/other sites need to consult a lawyer before freaking out about things. I saw something similar in regards to a freak out about deviantart and usually all these TOS are doing is trying to cover their own ass for displaying your art in the first place.

I've seen it for dA, Tumblr, LJ, and a message board I follow (repeatedly, there). I'd be very surprised if every place that's used to post art or writing other than sites wholly owned by the artist hasn't had at least a minor thing on this note. So...yeah, people really do need to consult a Law Talking Guy before freaking the hell out.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I should feel sorrier for people who think they have to somehow "get a copyright" on their works, but now I just roll my eyes at the freakouts.

It also reminds me of a member of a writing group I was in, who asked us to critique her novel manuscript but not to show it to anyone in case they copied it. Yeah, 'cause my friends and family are just salivating to steal some first draft of a mystery novel.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Humans are so gulliable.
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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2014-11-16 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry to sound gullible, but this post actually scared me. I post everything on my Tumblr first. And I never put a '©' on my work, but I have assumed I didn't need to. The idea that somehow Tumblr would start treating it as work-made-for-hire was terrifying.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Er, you don't have to put a '©' on your work. It's not a magical spell or anything, for one thing. If you're in the U.S., copyright exists on your work from the moment it's created, you don't have to register a work or do anything special.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-11-16 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The Mirror took some gifs from someone in my fandom a couple of weeks ago and used them without credit on their website so yeah, people do want to use material from Tumblr. Fanart gets stolen all the time. It just doesn't make much money, so Tumblr aren't going to want it themselves. They want fandom to get lost so they can make a video site, apparently.