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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-15 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2874 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think some people would argue, though, that black women have a very different experience in regards to desirability in that white women have often been held up as the ideal and black women have had to fight to be seen as beautiful, desirable, worth loving, etc.

It's why a lot of black women will defend black female love interests -- because it was a role denied to them for so long and being "just friends" wasn't a progressive position but rather because they were perceived as "undesirable."

I don't know that I necessarily agree (I'm not black mind you but I'm not white either), but I think that's how some black women feel and I think that the poem is (at least partially) reflective of this -- that black women are just as beautiful, feminine, and desirable as white women (who have been held up as the pinnacle of femininity in Western cultures).

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definitely reflective of this, and deliberately so. It has the potential to speak to any woman who feels she's been rendered undesirable by Western beauty standards, but it's at its heart written about being a large, black woman in the latter part of the 20th Century, and about being desirable and worthy of desire not in spite of those specific qualities, but because of all of her qualities.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
That makes me see that poem differently and appreciate it, thanks for that insight. Although there are a lot of non-desirable white women as well, I see the difference you mean.

I always thought it was pretty stupid before, for the reasons the OP said.