[ SECRET POST #2875 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2875 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Your ideal fictional antagonist/villain?

[othellia]

David Xanatos.

Done.

Re: Your ideal fictional antagonist/villain?

[darkmanifest]

Yes, god. Xanatos was amazing (especially in his heyday before he got a family and therefore something to care about other than power). Dude was smart, suave, ruthless, pragmatic, and ambitious without being a spitting psychopath trying to destroy the world, a sadist hurting people just because, or trying to work out his weepy daddy issues, everything I love in a villain.

Re: Your ideal fictional antagonist/villain?

[othellia]

You know, I don't even separate out his pre-family and post-family days, because while they cause him to care about stuff other than power, it's very clear that he still doesn't give that much of a fuck about anyone else. His amount of caring went from one person in the entire world to three.

IMHO, the only reason he befriends the Gargoyles again is because they help protect his family, whereas before he didn't need that protection because he was fine taking care of himself. I mean, there's a bit of villain redemption in there too, but it's still wrapped around a "this is what's important to ME" kind of mindset, which makes me love him even MORE because that show actually succeeded at pulling off villain redemption without destroying the personality core of the villain in the process.

A:tLA is the only other show I can think of that did it equally as well, and even then Zuko was never on par to the same villainy standards as Xanatos.

Re: Your ideal fictional antagonist/villain?

[darkmanifest]

Oh, no, his family didn't give Xanatos a personality transplant in the least, but it did finally cement how completely different he was from villains like Demona, who threw their loved ones under the bus all the time. The line I draw is between the early possibility that he was just Demona with fewer ideals and better decision-making, and would become as tragic as she was eventually if he didn't "lol see the light", and that possibility being blown out of the water for good with his relationship with Fox proving that Xanatos could be a ruthless villain with his eye on great and terrible things without ever being a fool. Like he says himself in the episode where he saves Fox at the cost of other plans, "Revenge is a sucker's game. [...] True love is so much harder to come by."

God, but I want to go on a Gargoyle binge again. You just don't get complex characters like that anymore.