[ SECRET POST #2876 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2876 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Boxtrolls]


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03.
[One Piece]


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[Hockey RPF, Patrick Kane]


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05.
[The Silmarillion]


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06.
[Meghan Trainor: All About That Bass]


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[Radiant Historia]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Meghan Trainor]


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[Taylor Swift]



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[Star Wars]













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Comments

Re: Male clothing

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I am a man, and one who's worked hard over the years to cultivate a distinctive, attractive, and memorable personal style. With the awareness that dressing like I do means that a whole bunch of professional and social doors are simply closed to me as a result.

I can identify a hand-stitched vs. machine-stitched suit jacket from a block away. I have firm opinions on the value of double-breasted vs. single-breasted. I prefer peaked lapels to notch lapels but I think shawl lapels should be in greater use. I know eight different tie knots and I don't even wear ties. I actually wrote the most popular article about men's hats of the last couple years.

So yes, I'm aware of the variations you speak of, but I don't think they count as actual diverse options. When your options for personal expression are down to the shape of the collar points on your mandatory white dress shirt, I'm going to go ahead and say that yes, your options are limited.

To put it another way, you can subdivide the floor of your cell into hundreds of separate spaces, give them each a name, and play out complicated games with them, but it's still a cell.

Re: Male clothing

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

So am I! By which I mean, also a guy, and to be honest I can't identify a hand-stiched vs machine-stiched suit jacket at all and I frankly don't care to. I have basically no opinions regarding ties, shirts, suits or whatever besides hey! That's a thing that other people wear.

But frankly you're doing exactly what I pointed out - going 'look men being unique / fashionable isn't as socially acceptable as women are' but then being like 'SO MEN DONT HAVE FASHION' which is, you know, pretty wrong.

I mean I'm not disagreeing with you here about what the situation with regards to fashion choices is like! I think your points are really super salient. But you're bitching about your workplace / society in general not being accepting which is really much more of a complaint about SPACES than it is a complaint about LACK OF OPTIONS BEING THERE. You know the options are there for nice distinctive fashionable shit, I know the options are there. If you had gone 'yeah most menswear in most places is drab because that's what the enforced norms are' I'd totally be on board. What you're doing is way more like going 'I can't have the options / my options in my position are limited, therefore no one has options'.

Like - sigh your entire rant is like IF I WEAR STUFF THAT ISNT SOCIALLY CONFORMING PEOPLE THINK IM WEIRD and yes I do think people are WRONG to think that's weird and it SHOULDNT be thought off as weird, but then you go 'and that means men dont have fashion options' which is where I find a problem. It's not like women don't face the same thing too, women being butch and super masculine at work have much the same kind of stigma being tossed on them, it's pretty bullshit either way. They ARE allowed range and variety... as long as it's feminine and pretty.

So you know, I don't disagree with your points, I disagree with your conclusions. There ARE options, you're wrong to say there aren't options, they just aren't appropriate in most situations. The problem is people's attitudes towards most of the options. There's like a huge biker culture / punk culture / whatever, but just because you can't wear that at work doesn't mean you can't wear those or buy those at all ever. Which is pretty much what you were saying in your first post. Critique the lack of options in professional menswear all you want, but don't slam all of it in general for your own situation being sub-optimal.

TL;DR: Lack of options for professional work wear is not lack of options entirely. And work standards apply to all genders - if you're implying that a woman in leopard print leggings and a tanktop and flipflops with bright green hair can walk in and get a white collar job you are wrong.