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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-18 07:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2877 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2877 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Since A/B/O is really exaggerated and stereotypical het roles plastered on non-het pairings (generally speaking, and with a side of dog penis) you could probably just read het. Unless you're wanting some other weird biology what-not, something like seahorses.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
This is honestly why I dislike most of A/B/O. It just takes the stereotypical "female" role and puts it on men and then surprise! generally treats them like shit or has vaguely rapey undertones.

There's been some well-written A/B/O, but most of it just seems to do exactly what you said.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yeah, I've read the occasional good A/B/O fic, even consider myself a casual fan of the trope, but let's not pretend most of it isn't really badly written and somewhat offensive. I'm mostly just confused about what OP wants, though, because I can absolutely find over-the-top cliche het romance stories, even if they don't necessarily use the A/B/O label.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Most of everything is really badly written and somewhat offensive.

That said, ABO is obvious fapfodder first and foremost, and that's okay.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I totally feel you. I like the fact it can include mpreg and its potential for some pretty neat worldbuilding.

But I rarely seek it out do to the fact that it includes many of the tropes you described, EXTREMELY unhealthy codependent relationships (that are romanticized) and writers that think that character shouting "I AM EJACULATING A MILLION SPERMS INSIDE YOU AND WILL MAKE YOU PREGNANT WITH 9000 BABIES YOU ARE MINE FOREVER" during a sex scene is erotic and sexy.

(Plus the common trope of making Betas the sex that is sterile for some reason makes absolutely no fucking sense. Why would ANY species have a moderate segment of the population sterile because of totally natural reasons? The only thing that would make sense would be its genetic, but they would have no way to pass on the genes that cause it)

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
"I AM EJACULATING A MILLION SPERMS INSIDE YOU AND WILL MAKE YOU PREGNANT WITH 9000 BABIES YOU ARE MINE FOREVER"

what if that's my fetish tho

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I find I really, really dislike the tendency in fandom for impregnating someone to be considered the ultimate in sexy and expressions of love. I feel like the people writing this stuff are gonna be the people who have kids they weren't ready for and didn't actually want.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
I know it's become a hoary old chestnut at this point, but fantasy =/= reality. At all.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
This. And it works both ways. I've written my share of shmoopy mpreg and kidfic and in reality have no interest whatsoever in having kids.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's just the human instict to reproduce. Better sooner than later, later leads to more chance of malformed offspring.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends what you mean by "sooner." The ideal age for having kids is when a woman is in her late 20s. That's when she has the smallest risk of complications and the child is least likely to wind up with some defect or genetic abnormality.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah...I'm glad I'm not the only one who really doesn't like the whole 'babies are love' crap.

All of my characters are sterile. Being, y'know, dead.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP: I only read A/B/O for the weird biology, since it's basically the only game in town for weird biology when your fandom isn't sci-fi or fantasy. I don't like the political aspects of it.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
WTF het are you people reading?

+1,000

(Anonymous) 2014-11-19 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, what the eff