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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-19 08:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2878 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2878 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, Hollywood is still a bit iffy about onscreen child death and torture.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather not have child death onscreen, thanks. Teenagers would be okay.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
lol
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-20 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I dunno - have you seen he Hunger Games?

I remember seeing the first film and thinking "holy shit, they're actually doing this".

(Anonymous) 2014-11-21 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's that gory compared to the books.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-21 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's not the gory thing...it's that it's just very in-your-face. Especially with Rue's death. It's the camera unapologetically showing you a dead little girl.

(And honestly, I LIKE thy did it, but I was genuinely surprised Hollywood went there).

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I admit to knowing very little about the comics history, but to my mind Steve having a teenaged sidekick during WW2 is... well, stupid. I think maybe presenting MCU Bucky the way he was might have been as much to do with making the story less hokey as it was to make it 'family-friendly'. Anyway, I much prefer this version to that Avengers cartoon I forget the name of now...

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree. I mean, I do love the friendship between Bucky and Steve in the movies. But if the movies could introduce a teenaged character into the movies in a plausible way and make him not annoying (which I'm not too sure is possible but if it is, I'd be very interested), I think the trajectory of his character arc would be very interesting. I think it would make the war more horrifying and real too. And the surprise of the Winter Soldier would be greater to non-comic fans because they'd have to cast a different actor. It would just be interesting to see how they would do it.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I see what you're saying, but I'm also shallow so mainly I'm just happy about how they did MCU Bucky because "lifelong friends who are kind of insane about each other" is a dynamic I am much more into than "mentor and his (former) teenage sidekick".

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

I just can't ship Steve/Bucky in the comics (unless it's as part of a threesome with Natasha), but MCU Steve/Bucky is my OTP to end all OTP.

Yes, losing his best friend that he grew up with was much less tragic.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Really?
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-11-20 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I need Sebastian Stan and his puppy-eyes in my life so I'm okay with things as they are. That being said, it would have been interesting to see him as a teenager. They could have had him put a slip of paper with the number eighteen written on it, then lie to the recruiter about being over eighteen. Captain Popsicle finds out, but unfortunately can't get him away from the front lines before he's captured by Hydra. When Bucky is finally rescued, Capt. admits that he's tough and the Allies need every man they can find. He agrees not to tell Command there's a teenager out in the field IF Bucky stays close to him.

Then Bucky falls to his (supposed) death and Capt. is left with horrible guilt.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-20 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
I love Seb's puppy eyes, too...

That being said, I stated reading the comics after CA:TWS and I can see hat OP means. It's an interesting different dynamic (less shippy to me), but that being said I really love comic book Bucky. As a character, and taking Sebastian Stan out of the equation...maybe even slightly more.

I actually really like your idea for that origin story.
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(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously they didn't have young Bucky because it was just way too cheesy and probably creepily homoerotic, but yes, I love comics Bucky.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The "child sidekick in the killing fields" thing just doesn't play the same way now as it did in the Golden Age.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-20 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
MCU!Bucky is kind of a composite character of comics!Bucky and Arnie Roth (who btw was canonically gay, as well as the one filling the sort of role that MCU!Bucky did for pre-serum Steve, so the shippers would still win even if they'd gone with teenage Bucky)
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[personal profile] annethecatdetective 2014-11-20 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you, OP. I thought the MCU take was interesting, but movie Bucky will never be what I think of first... and while I think Sebastian Stan did a fine job at it, I just kind of miss Bucky being a younger brother type figure. And the difference between comics Bucky and movie Bucky sometimes leads to weird moments discussing the characters with friends, when we realize we're picturing entirely different people.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-21 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
But wasn't 616 Bucky kinda retconed tho? I mean, he was officially Captain America's sidekick, but he was also trained operative who went on missions they didn't want to involve Cap into.

So if they had gone for it, it wouldn't have been campy at all. Bucky wasn't a bright eyed youth, but a cynical orphan, with a very useful skillset for someone so young.

They could have made it work, but I'm quite happy with the MCU Bucky.