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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-21 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2880 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2880 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[Megatokyo]


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[Adventure Time, Lena Dunham]


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[Gotham]


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(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
My Mom likes to point out that everything we think of as classical masterpieces -- Shakespeare, Bach, etc, is really only the stuff that survived to our age somehow. There may have once been artists much greater than these but we'll never know because their work has been lost for any number of reasons. Possibly people living at that time were like, "Man, that Verdi composition was so pedestrian, nothing like MontduImbecile's latest piece".

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
ehhhhhhhh

there's probably a causal relationship between something surviving for a long time and a lot of people thinking it was really good. it's not entirely random chance what survives, especially if you're only looking back over the past 3 or 4 centuries.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is true and I think, while some people could be less snobby about it, it's why older music is often falsely considered better when it's just that the stuff we're familiar with has stood the test of time. That being said, there could have been great pieces that ended up forgotten, considering how much music is appreciated today that basically got slammed when it was first performed.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
"There may have once been artists much greater than these but we'll never know because their work has been lost for any number of reasons."

Gotta agree with the previous anon. Unless those reasons are "only copy of it was lost in a fire" or something like that and nothing to do with how much people enjoyed listening to it, your reasoning might apply. Generally speaking, the reason why old music becomes "classical" is because a lot of people like it. If you don't get that critical mass of an audience, you languish in obscurity.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Your theory works better with a greater passage of time. Beowulf, for example. Probably a lucky survivor, and not a masterpiece that shone above its contemporaries. But without time travel, we'll never know.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Only to an extent. We aren't talking about thousands of years. We still have access to the contemporary reactions of audiences and reviewers, and we know that the composers we revere today were often very highly regarded in their own time.

What is more reasonable is that the mediocre stuff has largely been left behind. In much the same way that the '80s is popular musically at the moment - we forget all the crap.