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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-22 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2881 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2881 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, the movie made efforts to be more accessible to audiences like black people and Latin American people, that's so terrible!

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, too bad they had to do it at the expense of what were supposed to be Asian characters.

As opposed to, you know, adding minorities to all-white movies like Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph or Frozen, right?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the fact that they didn't do it in the past means you have to tear down the movie where they actually do it.

The concept of a multicultural city seems to be sailing right over your head. Just because the characters aren't white doesn't mean they're exempt from including others.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that they didn't do it in the past is relevant because they only felt the need to do it when the source material called for an all Asian cast. Is that going over your head? They didn't trust audiences to watch a film about Asians.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"Kids need to see characters that look like them and share their background. Always having to relate just based on personality isn't enough."

[this movie comes out]

"BAAAWWWW BUT WHY CAN'T AMERICAN KIDS RELATE TO JAPANESE CHARACTERS???!!!"

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
you have missed the point, lowly anon

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If they didn't trust audiences to watch a film about Asians, they would have...cut out all the Asians.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's like saying watching a Will Smith movie means that white people would have no problem with all-black films.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
But white people don't have problems with all-black films. They watch them.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. Most of the are targeted mainly towards black audiences.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
"targeted mainly towards" and "appeals to" are two totally different things.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There's still Asian characters there, in a predominantly Asian setting. Sorry, but I just can't get on board with this manufactured outrage over black and Latino people being included alongside Asians.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not being included alongside, they're replacing them. There's a difference.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, that's exactly how adaptations of obscure comics work.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Not if they're white.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's why they had a black guy lead in Guardians of the Galaxy... oh wait.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-11-23 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
...How would they include other major characters alongside the existing ones? Turn it into Big Hero 12?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe just keep the characters Asian?
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-11-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, keeping all the characters Asian is a great way to include black and Latino characters. Good catch.

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
How many are being replaced? Is this like "invasion of the body snatchin' niggers?" You look around and find that suddenly you're surrounded by black people and you know that they want to turn you black as well? "Join Us" they say in one voice. "We has watermelons" they say.

Or is it that only a couple of people have faces that no-longer match the homogeny? Cause I if the latter I suggest you calm down and give way to just the slightest shade of progressiveness. (if the former, run. Run for your life. They're coming after you. And you know they can run faster than you.)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing says 'progressive' like replacing an Ainu person with a blonde white guy.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Because diversity means including white people, too?

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I always saw Vanellope as Asian since her game was essentially an import from Japan. And as for any "but she doesn't have 'Asian' eyes" arguments, it's the whole face of the other thing with why people who aren't into the genre ask why all the characters in manga/anime are "white" because they don't "look Asian."

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If Vanellope was Asian, someone involved would have said as much.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-22 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe, but at the same time, I don't think there's anything wrong with looking at stuff like this...
http://static.zerochan.net/Vanellope.von.Schweetz.full.1574544.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4eWubQKyMyQ/UM_xYEBaTiI/AAAAAAAAAcU/95VQvh9NpQQ/s1600/tumblr_meuhul0GaT1rzjftfo1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/7e1e15d8ae870e39e8c20e516815f656/tumblr_mtbfd8jfys1qlem5oo1_1280.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5bD9wDBHGqg/UkRXkTvAaOI/AAAAAAAAJk8/xfsJ7BglJPY/s1600/Cosfest2013WreckItRalph.jpg

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140206043149/disney/images/4/44/Vanellope_in_One_Sweet_Race.jpg

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130616155922/wreckitralph/images/7/7a/OSRPage12.jpg

... and being able to make your own interpretation. The last two are from an official Disney book btw.