[ SECRET POST #2882 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2882 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

[(Anonymous)]

SA - like, I don't see how you can look at Gollum, and the role that he plays in the series, and then say "yeah, there's just no nuance in Lord of the Rings"

just to pick one specific example

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

[(Anonymous)]

Because Gollum isn't really about choice. He's become a slave to the ring which I feel removes a lot of the interest in the character. Since the ring can make decisions and is tied to Sauron. It's not so much the notion of "power corrupts" but that a weak person is being bent to the will of a much more powerful one. Which is much less compelling to me.

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

[(Anonymous)]

But characters have a lot of different reactions to the ring, which is kind of what I'm saying - the interaction of good and evil is interesting and nuanced. And I don't think it's simple enough to say he's a slave to Sauron - I think it's in many ways Gollum's own choices that lead him to the state where he was able to be overpowered by the ring, and even after the fact, he's still an independent agent in many ways.

And, I mean, this is a series where the hero fails in his quest, and it's only because of Gollum that Sauron loses.

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yeah, exactly. Absolute morality isn't a good thing since it can be used to justify some awful viewpoints-and saying some groups are evil just because doesn't do anything to address what causes evil (it's not just weak people). People always bring up Gollum, but a big theme in Tolkien is that "weaker" people get corrupted and I'm against that. Plus, any character people mention who aren't morally black and white (Gollum, Boromir, Denethor) all die. That doesn't say there's much forgiveness, since they all get narratively punished.