[ SECRET POST #2884 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2884 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Skinny people can be bullied. And fat people can bully skinny people.

[(Anonymous)]

Only in '90s kidcoms, dude.

[(Anonymous)]

only in other people's lives, dude.

[(Anonymous)]

Tell that to my (much slimmer) self in 2005.

[(Anonymous)]

Wrong, *dude*.

[(Anonymous)]

Because false accusations of anorexia never ever happen anywhere in any reality, right?

[(Anonymous)]

Also *actual* accusations of anorexia are horrible too. Having people bring up my weight at all (positive or negative) in any way was really horrible for me. Having people see my mental illness (which I was ashamed of) and feel just fine commenting about it was terrible. Really, bringing up someone's mental illness which is often exacerbated by having had some type of trauma and then further worsened by comments on your body... it makes you feel horrible.

[annethecatdetective]

That's true, and it's absolutely true that skinny people can be bullied for their size, and it's something I've seen happen to friends and family members who are skinny.

It doesn't look anything like a one-off line in a pop song that isn't being personally directed at them, however, when that song is not part of an overarching societal pressure. You can be affected by media and pop culture, even when it bucks overall trends/expectations, but you can't be bullied by it in that case.

Now, if there was someone who, when the song played, consistently pointed someone out at that line or something, that would be bullying behavior.

Normally, though, when I see people being shamed/bullied for being thin (usually by people in the average size range, or at least what I perceive to be average? I mean, I see a wide range of sizes as 'average', so that's not saying much, my 'average' could very easily be your 'fat'), it's with mentions of ED (if the person being bullied is female) or taunts about physical weakness/unmanliness (when the person being bullied is male)

Some of the very people I know who have been bullied for being skinny enjoy this song because it's catchy, and because it in no way reminds them of being bullied for their size, and some people who are not fat still find it to be an overall empowering message because they don't take that line to heart, or because the video features thinner girls (and I don't mean the 'barbie doll' who spends part of the video not fitting in-- but who does join in in the end-- neither one of the little girls playing with the dollhouse are REMOTELY fat, and none of the female dancers are fat in non-socially acceptable ways, though I wouldn't call them 'skinny' either).

Now, I take it you feel differently. But there's a world of difference between this song and an actual bullying campaign that involves telling a woman she needs to hide and be ashamed of her naturally skinny body, that her appearance is harmful to other women merely by her being as nature made her, that her natural body is presumed to be unhealthy and unnatural by virtue of her size... there's a world of difference.

Messages like that are disgusting and unacceptable no matter who they're being leveled at, I just don't see anything of that magnitude in this song.