[ SECRET POST #2884 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2884 ⌋

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Comments

[iceyred]

OP, I want to know what your thoughts are about fat girls who bully skinny chicks because they're jealous.

[(Anonymous)]

not OP, but anyone can bully anyone because of any reason. It's like the whole "pretty people can be bullied" - absolutely, but anyone can, and they're still treated a lot better by society overall.

[iceyred]

I'm sure that makes them feel so much better when they're getting their heads slammed against a locker door and being told they're whores.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, but what does that have to do with what I said? Bullying is never okay. No bullying on an individual level is any better or worse than any other kind of bullying. I don't really get why you posted a very specific example, it seemed to me like you presented it as though it's a common problem that thin kids face. I could say how about the kid with glasses who bullies the kid without glasses. Does that mean kids without glasses shouldn't be non-glasses shamed? well, of course. Is it a problem common enough to be normalized, similar to fat-shaming? I'm skeptical.

[iceyred]

It was a common enough problem for me. The secret dismisses an example of women shaming other women for their bodies. You dismissed bullying because society treats skinny people better overall. Imagine the drama and hurt feelings that would happen if the song shamed fat women and if people dismissed the abuse directed at larger people.

News flash: skinny people have feelings too. We don't like being made to feel like our bodies are bad or shameful ('Skinny bitch' 'Real women have curves' 'Are you anorexic?' 'Do you make yourself throw up after eating?')and we don't like it when people treat us like crap. Surprise! We're just like larger people that way!

[(Anonymous)]

No one should shame anyone else for their bodies, no one should be bullied. Since I don't think I've ever said otherwise I'm not sure why you're saying I'm dismissing it. I am saying however that equating "skinny shaming" with fat shaming is absurd as an overall problem in society. Thin people, even people who actually are underweight, are in general still treated much more positively than fat people. So when you say a skinny person could be bullied by a jealous fat person for being skinny, sure, but so are a million other types of bullying. The question is, do skinny people face an overall societal problem of being judged, bullied, and harassed because of their weight to the same extent that fat people are? I'd say absolutely not.

And no, I don't really think that a song that shames fat women is the same as a song that "shames" skinny women. One situation reflects a societal reality of how fat people are treated, one sucks but in the end, it's thin people who are perceived as beautiful by the mass majority of society precisely because of their thinness. This is a society where people will compliment even an anorexic girl for how in shape and thin she is. That was my experience, by the way - I was anorexic and underweight, and people were telling me I looked great. Looking back, it's mind boggling, but there you have it. For every insult there's a thousand things in western society reinforcing skinny as beautiful, some less subtle than others. The opposite is not true.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I think a lot of people mistake misogyny for skinny shaming. Society deems it acceptable to police every woman's body, no matter what shape it is. When a thin woman experiences body policing she often thinks she is being picked on for being thin, when the truth is that she is being picked on for being a woman.

[(Anonymous)]

Perhaps because the digs have to do with her weight? That would (and did) make me think it was about pounds (or lack thereof) and not gender.

[(Anonymous)]

What? That is such a stupid way to make this issue about WOMYN! It isn't. It is about weight.

[(Anonymous)]

It's women who get it, overwhelmingly, so it IS about gender. I think the stupid (or at least dense) one here isn't AYRT.

[(Anonymous)]

POWER+PRIVILEGE=FATISM!