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Ehh, that's taking it a bit too far, though I agree that people who are legitimately offended by the "skinny bitch" line are way too sensitive. But I can't quite take "skinny shaming" seriously. I mean, sure, it exists, and no one should be shamed for their body, but to act like it's anything remotely similar to fat shaming is pretty ridiculous. Thin people are, in general and overall, treated much differently from fat people.

That being said, as catchy as this song is, I can't quite take its message to heart. The justification for being okay with a bigger body seems to be "boys like it". Which is, what.

Most pro-body movements are all about loving you for yourself, for the sake of yourself, how it doesn't matter what other people think of you as long as you feel great, etc.

And that's good! But for teenage girls who are really damn worried about whether or not boys find them attractive, it also becomes very easy to dismiss any and all pro-body movements as "oh, they don't apply to me, because I do care what others/boys think of me, so I still have to be skinny".

That's actually why I like this song. A lot of the "boys/others will find your confidence attractive" and "love yourself for yourself" messages tend to come off as farcical or condescending, and thus makes the whole "fat can be beautiful" message seem like a lie, because it seems like it has nothing to do with "true" beauty (in this case, "true beauty" is "how attractive are you") - especially since a lot of the emphases tend to unintentionally imply that fat is still ugly, it's just that things like "confidence" are supposed to make up for that. This song does a pretty good job of pointing out that there is inherent attractiveness in plus-sized bodies, that it doesn't just have to be seeming-bullshit like "confidence" or "love for yourself" that's attractive, but the body itself.

Given how more and more, guys are willing to admit they find something non-mainstream attractive (including plus-sized ladies), I definitely think we should encourage this. Obviously, no one should allow their own attractiveness to dominate their identity or control their life, but that doesn't mean that they should never worry about it, ever, and are somehow wrong for thinking about it.

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I have yet to see this video, but looking at this clip, the girl is not fat. She's thick, and in certain communities (my ethnic community for example) that is attractive.

That said, growing up I was rather skinny and I always thought to be a woman I needed to be at least a size 8 (in US clothing), have a generous bosom and a booty, hips, and thighs like WHOA. Part o my understood (as a kid) that wasn't necessarily true and I should be glad with my lot, but...the girl with the nice/thick body got the boys. And my stick figure self got none. for a kid with low self esteem, it kind of sucks. Of course, for the girls with the thick bodies it wasn't fair to them either (certainly doesn't help loving you for you if people only want you for your body).

Just an anecdote, but I do agree with your comment about encouraging the beauty found in all kinds of people (plus size, in this context) and emphasizing the fact that attractiveness should not be a person's foundation in their identity/life.

Taking a step back, it kind of confounds me how little ethnic divisions in body perception gets brought up in conversations about body image.

In mainstream media, popular culture, and in white and Asian communities (in America), the mentality is definitely "skinny = better", and that tends to be the 'platform' that most people focus on. But absolutely, there are plenty of communities where being the "thick" girl was attractive. Now that I think about it, I'm surprised this doesn't get brought up more - especially once things like "skinny-shaming" are brought up. There are some communities where this is a big problem, and some where this doesn't even exist as a concept - and in some parts of the U.S., at least, these communities can be right next door and these mentalities will still never so much as brush up against each other, let alone overlap or interact with each other. Is it any wonder that people from these very opposite "platforms" of body perception run head-first into each other online?

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