[ SECRET POST #2884 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2884 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

... not the op, but is this a trick question? I mean I'm not white, and my race is one of my defining traits. So is my musical ability, my tendency to wear lots of layers in the winter 'cause I get cold easily, my lack of athleticism, my height, my fondness for hedgehogs... they're not my only defining trait of course, but all those traits and more help define me.

[a_potato]

I can't speak to the race issue so much, but I know that being a woman is consciously a defining trait for me in a way that being a man is not consciously a defining trait for a lot of guys that I know (i.e. my being a woman affects me in a noticeable way such that I can't not see gender, whereas being a man doesn't have as noticeable an effect on my male friends). That may be what anon is getting at.

[(Anonymous)]

I suspect it's because we're not white that we can claim our race defines us (not totally, of course, but in part). When people look at me, they see my skin color, facial shape, hair, body style, etc. and make a whole host of associations about who I am. White doesn't have that kind of stereotyping. White also doesn't have a more or less unified culture of its own, or a sense of solidarity among white people, or a sense of having to stick together to make the world a better place for people like them. White people have the luxury of ignoring race (or at least claiming they do) because they don't have to be "racial" and so it's ceased to define them.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true so long as they're in a predominantly white culture.

[(Anonymous)]

If I see a white guy in camo clothing and a mullet, I'm making some assumptions. Just saying.

[(Anonymous)]

Most folk'll never lose a toe, but then again some folk'll...

[(Anonymous)]

A+ reference, I giggled.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you're speaking from a very US-centric perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

Never been in europe, I guess. People don't identify with being white you're right, it's all about ethinicity and if you are part of the 'right' one according to some.
Most are white but xenophobia is a thing because if you have not one of "right" nationalities and cultures you are discriminated. Just ask immigrants from ukraine or albania, ask JEWS what happened to them, you know when. I'm pretty sure northern european people also consider greeks and italians non white or not really white like them because it's not about looking white for them. White isn't the same concept you have in the US because there the equivalent is not based on the color of your skin, it's all about culture, language, religion, nationality. European countries are for the most part dramatically different. You don't hear people saying 'I'm european' as much as you hear them saying 'I'm french' 'I'm russian'. I know that even in the same countries (Italy for example) there are distinctions between people from northern and southern regions because they have very different idioms and cultures resulting from different dominations from certain cultures in the past (southern regions are likely to have spanish, latin or african influences for example)

I think the African continent has similar issues. Black people might be the majority there but unlike what non african people believe, Africa is not all the same. It's not a country, it's a continent. There are so many different ethnicities there, so many cultures and idioms. It does make a difference to many if you come from one country instead of another, regardless if you're both poc. That not even taking into consideration different issues than racial ones like sexism or social stratification that are rampant.

Tl dr: the world outside the US has it's own dynamics that can't be understood using the american experience.
This in part explains why europeans might be ignorant about racial issues in the USA and viceversa.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree on the sense of solidarity, but non-white races don't have unified cultures either. It sounds like you're talking about non-white groups within a specific country like the US, and even that is over-simplifying things. Just compare recent African immigrants the the US with the African-American popuation - it's not all one culture by any means.