[ SECRET POST #354 ]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #354 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

- First comment is Name that fandom!

- Happy Holidays, people~ And Happy/Merry Christmas!!!
(to those who celebrate it!)

Secrets Left to Post: 6 pages, 150 secrets from Secret Submission Post #051
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom. [1] reply.
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Comments

[militarypenguin.livejournal.com]

20. You had me up until the second to last statement. I have siblings and still enjoy reading about incest in fiction from time to time. It's all a matter of separating RL values from fiction.

33. See the credits of the second and third games to get the subtext. Even if Franziska is a manipulative twit, she's a manipulative twit that Adrian loveslikes a great deal.

41. I didn't hate the movie per se, but I did have more than a few gripes about it--mainly the overuse of the SH2 monsters (which are creepy as hell when you understand what the meaning behind their existence is), the decision to include all of the town's citizens (which ate away all of the remains of the lonely, cold atmosphere), and the "LOOK AT ME I'm on fire", and, alright, the entire thing. But I did enjoy it, much like I would enjoy a bad Disney sequel.

[pyrasaur.livejournal.com]

I can kinda see calling Friska manipulative, she just does it in a very open way. Like in 2-2 where she's all, "It'd be illegal to submit this picture as evidence, but the members of the court can't exactly erase it from their memories, now can they?" And her presenting herself as an authority figure and guardian to Adrian, because that was exactly what Adrian craved. Maybe Franziska's not manipulative so much as ... exploitive? (Semantics, yay!)

[militarypenguin.livejournal.com]

Point taken with what happened in 2-2, but:

her presenting herself as an authority figure and guardian to Adrian, because that was exactly what Adrian craved.

I wouldn't exactly call this a form of manipulation on Franziska's part. From what I remember, she didn't know about Adrian's past prior to their meeting, and even after the case was over and there was no more necessary information to extract from Adrian, she still took on the role as her "guardian", which gave me the impression that she really wasn't pretending.

But yeah, "exploitive" would be a far better choice of word for Franziska than "manipulative".

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[(Anonymous)]

No, I probably shouldn't have included that last bit, it obscures my point. I actually don't mind if anyone ships that as incest - it's the fact that so many shippers of it completely ignore that it would be incest that really, really bothers the hell out of me. I speculated that the reason for that is because most people who ship it don't have siblings; I could be wrong and shouldn't have put that in.

If more people shipped it like that instead of "what incest? they're not related!" I wouldn't have a problem shrugging at the ship and moving on. It sticks in my side just because people don't.

(I certainly can't say anything about shipping incest, myself. I have a couple of incest ships and I have a sibling.)