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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-29 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2888 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2888 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I commend your dedication. Personally I bailed years ago. I understand that Rage!Monster isn't even on the show any more, but since he didn't get jailed on his exit I still don't bother.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Who is rage!monster?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Stabler.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I like that description.

I used to call him Un-stabler.

(And I only watched the show for Finn and Munch, TBH)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

LOL @ Un-Stabler. I also watched for Finn and Munch (because MUNCH!!!!!!eleventy!! and Ice-T totally too, dude...so yeah) but gave up when SVU stopped being a strict procedural and switched to The Days of the Lives of Elliot and Olivia instead. Blech.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I like my procedurals to be procedurals, and watching Stabler unravel was just upsetting. I haven't watched this one in years.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That there were no lasting consequences of his increasing egregious violations of rights was what got me. The writers instead started pulling more and more and more unbelievable last second twists so he could skate and be right-all-along.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was what ended it for me as well.
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[personal profile] aboutelle 2014-11-29 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to watch when the show was new (like a decade ago; time flies) and then lost interest. I got back into it recently because of Danny Pino but I'm a little afraid they'll turn him into Unstabler 2.0.

Back when I first watched I didn't see anything wrong with Elliot at all (I even shipped EO) but now I can't stand him anymore. Every time I see him I can't help but think how little it would surprise me to learn that he chained his kids in the basement to protect them from the predators lurking everywhere.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-11-30 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
God, but Stabler was a pustule from the first episode I tried to watch to the last one I gave up on before I went back to watching reruns of the original.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
this is painfully accurate

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It used to have great character consistency in the first few seasons. It's so shit now, and you're right - it's like they throw darts to decide how the characters are going to react.

Everything after season 10 has been rubbish.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Most things that have 10 season are rubbish when they get there.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but three of the things were Olivia was going to be shrill, Elliot was going to hulk out, and that they'd remember Munch existed.

Okay, the third one was pretty good. Shame it was the first to go.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-29 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
SVU started off pretty well but I had to bail after it became a weird trainwreck of all the characters' personal issues. No thanks...
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[personal profile] nayance 2014-11-30 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
SVU is a crap show - shitty characters is no surprise.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
They were pretty consistent for about the first 4-5 seasons. Now it's definitely a dartboard (unless it's rape, in which case you know where Olivia stands). This week: child abduction! Munch says it's not that bad! Ice-T was kidnapped 11 times as a child while working narcotics! Olivia saw this one case this one time when she was undercover! Craigen loves his gibbon!
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[personal profile] aboutelle 2014-11-30 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think the problem is actually that the writers feel they need to address an issue from all possible viewpoints or they need someone to say something ignorant/victim blaming/sexist so that another character can refute their point. But it just doesn't make any sense for svu detectives to hold these ignorant viewpoints in the first place.

And I don't think it started lately. When it was the Benson and Stabler show (as opposed to the Sergeant Benson show it's now), these two frequently swapped the roles of "the personally involved one" and "the rational one".

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT Yes, Benson and Stabler did this all the time, but at least the writers were reasonably consistent as to who would hold which viewpoint. Rape case = Olivia did "personally involved"; child case = Stabler did "personally involved".

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I gave up on the show a few years ago and only just recently picked it back up, but I'm actually glad I did? I really like the new blood, AD Barba has quickly become my favorite prosecutor on the show, and now that Elliot is gone I can actually go through an episode without my blood pressure spiking.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I always had a lot of problems with that show. Like how they keep threatening suspects with prison rape and never even think abour apologising even if the suspect turn out to be innocent, how female-on-male rape is still a joke in this show, how they keep bullying victims for the "greater good" and how the writers seem to hate research more than anything. I also always thought it funny how they show the "this is not about real people" disclaimer and then the episode is an exact copy of a real life case. (The best of those are the ones where it's an unsolved RL case and they make up their own version of what really happened, which I find really disrespectful).
I still watched it, don't know why. But I stopped when Huang left.