[ SECRET POST #2888 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2888 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Alternative to the Bechdel Test?

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I like my test better.

Those two female cops are just presented as officers -- they could be of ANY gender and the scene would work.

Whereas you couldn't have two men raving about the latest washing powder without breaking Hollywood conventions. And that shows how limited those women's roles are.

Re: Alternative to the Bechdel Test?

[anonymous4]

Yes, I like your test!

ETA: Mind you, thinking about it, the female characters in my stories are both -- they do things (investigating, fighting, making tough, moral decisions) that any gender could do, but they also do stereotypically female things (like longing to have a child).

Re: Alternative to the Bechdel Test?

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I'd argue that a movie shouldn't automatically fail such a test if there were a brief moment where the female cops spent a few lines talking about washing powder, as long as there was also a scene where they discussed the perp and did other Police Things. In other words, the movie passes if there are female characters who don't necessarilly need to be female and who do things that don't revolve around their femaleness, but they still *can* do conventionally female things - it's just not the entirety of they're characters. They don't need to be consistently gender-neutral all the time to pass. You could still just as easily make the cops male without breaking conventions by changing the washing powder discussion to one about sports because it's just a few throw-away lines between two cops on patrol before all hell breaks loose or whatever.