[ SECRET POST #2889 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2889 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #413.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

05. http://i.imgur.com/utqGIy0.png

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people see the characters outside of their OTP as nothing but background scenery and window dressing. So if the background scenery changes to an AU, the other characters go with it.

[esteefee]

Or maybe the writers can't bear to do without Teyla and Ronon in an earthside AU since they love the characters so much? I know the one time I wrote an earthside AU that was my feeling.

[(Anonymous)]

Well duh, I don't see how people miss this! I love the team and if I read an AU I like a ton more if the whole team is in it. It's not like John or Rodney's background wasn't changes, and it's not like there aren't a bunch of AUs where they weren't originally from Earth, either. It's kind of the point of an AU to switch things up while still trying to preserve the characters we know even in a completely different setting..

[(Anonymous)]

Of course, there is something to be said for being slightly miffed at particular characters being treated that way - especially in stargate fandom, which had some serious issues back in the day. Maybe that's why it bugs OP so much.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that depends on the AU. Not being familiar with the show, I'm getting the idea that they're aliens? And if so, why the hell do you expect people to include aliens in their coffee shop AU (for example)? If the backstory is important, a comparable back story that exists in whatever setting can always be found.

[solticisekf]

yeah, they're aliens.

[elaminator]

And if so, why the hell do you expect people to include aliens in their coffee shop AU (for example)?

lmao, that actually sounds like one coffee shop AU I would read, but I see no reason why them being human is an issue if you're writing a coffee shop AU. ...Those don't exactly tend to stick close to canon, in...any way.

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on the type of AU and how the author deals with it, really. It's easier in some ways to do a sci-fi AU of a mundane/Earth-based canon than it is to do a mundane/Earth-based AU of a sci-fi canon, but it's not impossible. Depending on the genre and setting of the AU, you can tailor character backgrounds to get the essences of canon backstories, though yes, they're not going to be aliens. It's the same problem you have with Spock in Trek AUs or elves/dwarves in LotR AUs. Doing a mundane AU is going to involve some tricky negotiating to keep the essence of their stories without having the same species range or having space travel and other worlds to explain it.

I do think there are plenty of translatable elements in their stories, though. Teyla as a local leader dealing with an incursive military expedition who inspire a loyalty that she has to balance against that of her own people, Ronon as the remnant of a destroyed people helping strangers against a common enemy ... those are not without precedent even in wholly Earth-based stories.

[(Anonymous)]

What do you want people to do, write coffeeshop AUs with aliens?

[(Anonymous)]

Well there is that fic where starbucks randomly pops up on Atlantis (remember, this fandom is the embodiment of "someone probably already wrote that").

[intrigueing]

I think it depends on whether the writer bothers to come up with a suitably metaphorical earth-based AU equivalent.

And writes it in a way that doesn't come off as something like "the inhabitants of Actual Country X are totally like people from another planet!"

[fingalsanteater]

Well, if you are writing an Earth-based AU, mundane or otherwise, how else could you fit aliens in there? Unless it's a sci-fi AU. If it's more of a canon based or canon divergent AU, yeah... at least make them the aliens they are.

[(Anonymous)]

What if you were a panda?

[(Anonymous)]

If Fingals was a panda, she'd be busy eating bamboo shoots and wouldn't be posting on the Internet.

[(Anonymous)]

What if she was a very special government panda that could use the internet?

[gaffsie]

Depending on what kind of AU you're talking about, that's kind of necessary though? If it's just your garden-variety no-Stargate-exist AU, it would be impossible to include Ronon and Teyla if they weren't Terrans too.

Right now it sort of sounds like you're saying that if you write earth-side AUs that *include* Ronon and Teyla you automatically ~*appreciate*~ them less than if you just keep them out of the story entirely. :/

[esteefee]

Heh. This. Gotta have my Ronon and Teyla. Even if John and Rodney are working at a 7-11.

I swear to God, I thought this secret was a joke.

[(Anonymous)]

Really, how could it not be? But then I thought maybe the OP meant in AUs where aliens exist. Because otherwise OP is saying that in alternate universes these characters from fictional places better have their original backstories or it is somehow offensive and that's just silly.

Re: I swear to God, I thought this secret was a joke.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, is this subtle trolling/a joke?

[zing_och]

This is a joke, right? A joke about all the people who handwaved the fact that they left those two prominent PoC out of their fic because "they wouldn't have fit - they're aliens"! Right?

Lie to me if you have to.

[nightscale]

But, if it's an AU set on Earth how else would you include them? I love their canon alien origins but if I was reading an Earth-based AU and they weren't there it would annoy me, can't leave out Teyla and Ronon man.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Typical, missed my own thread! I wasn't trolling, though I can see people's POVs posted here. It was a slightly more nuanced objection that I had, and I really should have been more specific in the secret. Ah well, not to matter now as I doubt anyone will see this.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I saw it.