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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-30 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2889 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2889 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
We just met Sam as well and he was a DAMN interesting character. And he and Steve share a TON in common. Both soldiers. Both having to re-integrate into society. Both having lost a beloved friend in war.

It makes a TON more sense for Steve to go for Sam, with whom he has "shared life experience," rather than Sharon -- who's connection to him is being a rookie in the same organization they work for and the niece of the woman he loved.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Looks to me like you're forgetting that Steve is straight, he isn't attracted to men.

Steve hooking up with a random chick makes more sense than him hooking up with any guy.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Um…how do you know Steve is straight? He could be bisexual. Hell, the guy was born in 1918 so it wouldn't be shocking if he hadn't expressed it due to repression and shame.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
da

Of course Steve is straight, because even today, no studio would risk making their male superhero queer in canon.
And still, theoretically, him hooking up with Sam (lots of parallels plus a meet-cute), Bucky (parallels/antitheses, plus Bucky basically was your typical "damsel in distress" in the first film) or Nat, if you want a het option (antitheses in every which way, and yet they find common ground and trust and friendship) would make more sense than Steve "waiting for the right partner", "it's hard to find someone with shared life experience" Rogers hooking up with a random chick, much less a young, hot relative of the one person he canonically was in love with/had a crush on and their love story was one that ended in bitter-sweet tragedy lost to seventy years on ice and could-have-beens.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-30 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, especially with your breakdown of why the other characters make more sense as romantic interests for Steve. Not to mention that, in my opinion, each of those characters was better developed and better-integrated into the story.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-12-01 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, basically this. I realize they won't go that rout because reasons you mentioned - but from a narrative point of view, pretty much everyone makes more sense than Sharon.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-02 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
comic Steve is kinda bisexual... I mean there are panels that make it kinda really obvious without actually spelling it out for people.
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-12-01 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Sam has a lot of screentime in the film, Sharon was in it for like five minutes total and we know nothing about her as of yet. Not really comparable.

(Although yes I'd like him to hook up with Sam as well.)

(Anonymous) 2014-12-01 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
But that's my point. She's apparently supposed to be his love interest but they've done nothing to develop her or the relationship, they've given Steve a TON of things he needs to resolve (which means screen time is at a premium), Tony's going to be in Cap 3 for example, and then Steve's likely going to die soon. Which means the romance is either going to likely be underdeveloped or take time away from important plot points. And that's not even touching on Sharon's relation to Peggy nor the fact that nothing has been done to establish what common life experiences she has with Steve.
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-12-01 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yet. There's nothing saying they won't do that in the future? Her role in this film was basically a cameo. Judging a character based on what is essentially a cameo doesn't make much sense to me. Wait until she (hopefully) is given an actual role. I'm confused by all the comments that go into depth about their relationship and what it is totally going to be like, considering they have only five or so lines of dialogue to base that on. To make it clear, I'm a Steve/Sam and Steve/Peggy shipper, but it still feels very presumptive even to me.

To be honest, if they do kill Steve I probably won't watch any more MCU movies outside a select few (Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Gotg 2). Bucky is as bland as plain oatmeal slathered on toast, and it's uninteresting enough to see him in the screentime he's had already.
Edited 2014-12-01 01:31 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-12-01 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It reminds me of Black Widow in Iron Man 2, who had no characterization beyond "Scarlett Johansson looking sexy in a catsuit". People hated her, too. Now, after she got a lot of great characterization, people are clamoring for a "Black Widow" solo movie.

Why can't people give Sharon the same benefit of the doubt?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-01 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not necessarily a problem with Sharon, though, as it is with a romantic relationship. Sure, Sharon could be developed into a great character. But all signs indicate that Steve is going to bite it soon and he has a crapload to do -- saving Bucky, confronting Stark in Civil War, Black Panter's going to be in Cap 3, developing his friendship with Sam. So they're going to have to squeeze a romance with Sharon in there. And that means that either an important, already developed plot or major plot is going to suffer (something I absolutely do not want) or the relationship is going to be underdeveloped (the likely result).

It just feels like they're FORCING a romance into the story when we already have so much to cover. And, unlike Sam, they hardly built any foundation at all for Steve and Sharon's relationship in Cap2.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-01 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Sam also had a much larger role in the film he showed up in. Sharon didn't have nearly enough scenes to be reasonably judged as interesting or boring.