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[ SECRET POST #2890 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2890 ⌋

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What makes you think it's the second option? From what I've seen of the case... jesus, 27 stab wounds, throat slit and a gunshot to the head doesn't sound like self defense. Neither does taking morbid photos of the victim's last moments and his bleeding corpse. Neither does lying about her whereabouts and the truth of what happened to the police several times, because the self defense explanation is her third version of events.

Yeah, all of that doesn't sound to me like a woman who just wanted someone dead. That level of violence sounds to me like someone who was terrified and enraged. That sounds like someone who had taken all she could, who had been wound as far as she could be, and exploded.

Different strokes, I guess. For the record, most cases with that much overkill is about anger, not fear. If you're afraid and angry and defending yourself, you don't generally wait till your abuser is vulnerable in the shower, and you don't document it with a camera. It's incriminating. The only reason for documenting your actions is because you want to savor those moments later, much like a serial killer would.

You also don't wait two years after your arrest to mention that oh yeah, it was self defense.

You're being very polite so please don't take this as a personal attack when I say this, but that all sounds a little victim blame-y. "She should have spoken up sooner" and "If she was really killing her abuser she would have been more afraid and less angry" are not exactly positive things to say.

Good thing I didn't actually say them, then? The thing about quoting things "like this" isn't to put words in other peoples' mouths, anon. Doing so makes you sound like a troll.

Flip the genders. A man stabbing a woman 27 times, slitting her throat and documenting the last moments of her life...is there an excuse - excuse me, reason - good enough for that?

Possibly. I mean I don't know what it would be, but never say never. The world has a tremendous capacity for throwing up all sorts of bizarre things. Sounds the sort of excuse you'd need to be on the jury and sit through all the evidence, every line, live as it happened, to be able to judge properly. Media reports always leave stuff out, and transcripts are no substitute for live-reactions both from the stand and the defendant's bench.

Well, the jury who did just that found her guilty.

Exploding involves getting hold of/preparing two separate weapons and a camera?

That sort of thing falls under premeditation, not exploding in self-defense.

Exactly, which is probably why the jury found her guilty of premeditated murder in the first degree. Stabbing, throat cutting and gunshot to the head isn't something that spontaneously happens. Anyone can experiment for themselves: get a pillow and pretend you're stabbing it with a fake knife. Do it twenty seven times, which is the minimum estimate for how many times the victim was stabbed. How spontaneous does that feel to you by the time you've finished?

I don't know. The anon who thinks Arias is innocent is either trolling or reeeeeeally ignoring a whole lot of incriminating evidence here.

Yeah, no. When someone kills out of self defense, they get the person down and run like hell. She overkilled and took pictures. Sounds more like a person who has control/jealousy issues.

Yeah taking pictures is kinda..."wtf, why though" and points to something other than self defense.

There's a level of reveling in the killing in this that goes away above and beyond "someone who had taken all she could...and exploded." It doesn't sound angry or fearful at all; it sounds gleeful.

There are women sometimes who kill for unjustified reasons. It's not good to act as if women aren't capable of that. It's certainly not feminist, because it takes away a part of what makes us complex human beings.

That sounds to me like someone who is a psychopath and I wouldn't want walking around in public even if she was "defending" herself.

That sort of murder is....is not right.

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