[ SECRET POST #2890 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2890 ⌋

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Comments

[kallanda_lee]

I thought there was a site that basically tells you if a film passes the test or not? Which without context is pretty useless, I think.

[ozaline]

Yeah there are a couple sites that keep track of it... and really I only use it in aggregate (at least I do now)...

I actually at one point dissected an issue of Batgirl... to see if it passed the comic, in the issue Batgirl (Stephanie Brown) has conversations with Oracle and Proxy two female computer hackers and those conversations fill up most of the dialogue in the book... the central topic of the conversation is a thief (whom Stephanie refuses to gender not knowing the theifs identity) the thief turned out to be male (in fact it was Bruce Wayne running her through a test.. and I could not decide if it was a pass or not, because while there were tangential discussions the main focus of all the conversations was the investigation into the activities of a man.

I think the first two layers of the Bechdel test are the most important, but you can have a movie with only one female character of note and no dialogue and still have it be good. But in aggregate, ie (less than 15% of films released in year X pass) it is interesting...

[kallanda_lee]

Yeah, but in that sense I find it a bit like BMI: something intended and useful to say something about populations, but utterly flawed if you're talking about one individual case.

It's good to know if 95 percent of films coming out of Hollywood don't pass, of course, because that does say something about cultural trends. But applied to a single movie it doesn't say much.

[diet_poison]

ah, I've never heard of that site, but I agree, it's not very useful on its own.