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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-01 07:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #2890 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2890 ⌋

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Re: Slash pairings becoming canon

(Anonymous) 2014-12-02 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
"But I guess that's my point: the way that fans see slash relationships as romantic relies on totally different cues and indicators than the way that romantic relationships that are intended to be perceived that way are written. Which isn't to say that slash fans are doing it 'wrong', but more that it doesn't necessarily make sense to expect that the creators of media will suddenly start writing explicitly romantic relationships in the way that fans see romantic relationships, just because they're writing gay characters now. Even where het romances are relatively subtle, I think the subtle cues are still different from the cues that slash fans use to read relationships."

not anon you replied to but...

I disagree, for the most part. I genuinely believe that if you took away gender completely and presented a het pairing before it is realized in the show, and one of many popular slash pairings, you (general you) wouldn't be able to tell which one was the het. I think the cues ARE often the same, and they even COULD potentially be meant to be homoerotic - but even if they aren't, I think a lot of it comes down to straight bias. And hey, I get that, most characters are probably going to be in straight relationships, just as most real life people are - but gay relationships as nuanced and uncertain as straight relationships is desperately lacking in media.

Re: Slash pairings becoming canon

(Anonymous) 2014-12-02 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
I just have to disagree, I guess. It just does not seem to me that cues are anywhere close to the same. But, you know, it's probably something that we're not going to resolve here.

& as I said below, I don't think straight relationships are actually all that nuanced and uncertain in media most of the time