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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-05 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2894 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2894 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They're cartoons. What is up with you people?
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[personal profile] dysmaid 2014-12-06 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, for a lot of girls, concern with body image starts very early. At that age, you don't think critically enough to understand that the princesses' or other characters' body types are unrealistic, you only know that they're beautiful and you want to emulate them.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-12-06 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
This. The focus on girls' bodies starts really young. People commented on my weight when I was in grade school, so I imagine it's the same for other girls.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I remember when I was age 8, my ballet teacher rapped on my tummy and tried to shame me in front of the class by calling me fat. (She was forever trying to "motivate" her students via humiliation.)

Photos of me at that age confirm that I was a coltish, leggy young girl. Any sane person would have described me as slender.

Luckily I recognized that she was a bully, and quit the class.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-12-06 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I really want to punch your ballet teacher in the face.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
But isn't being super light an invaluable asset in ballet? All of the dancing and movement on the tips of the toes, and the strain on the toes and feet...

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
It is, but OP was already slender. Also, she was 8...
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-12-06 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't even come close to validating that treatment of an 8yo, anon

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
But you need the strength to get up on the toes in the first place, and without any body fat to lose you start losing muscle mass. So defeats the purpose.

And she was 8, man. Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that 8 is too young to be applying that kind of pressure, but pressure to lose weight in ballet is a real thing. A friend of mine was training for years to get into professional ballet (she eventually quit though...) and she's skinny as fuck, but she says all the girls get shit about their weight, and sometimes they're flat out like "lose ten pounds or you're getting dropped." And girls do get dropped for having a certain body type. Being light is an asset for getting lifted, and also it's just part of the aesthetics of ballet, and ballet is all about aesthetics.

And ballet teachers are assholes by tradition anyway, if you have a serious teacher. It comes with the intensely competitive environment.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
In fact no it isn't...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/big-ballet-star-hannah-baines-3112610

(Anonymous) 2015-01-02 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh! Both my ballet teacher AND my mother told me my bum stuck out way too much and I wasn't pretty enough to be a ballerina.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I was 10 or 11 when, during the annual health check-up, the school nurse blurted out "oh, you weigh a lot!".

Nurse: *after doing other check-ups* Do you take part in any sports?
Me: Yes, I figure skate.
Nurse: I see. *scribblescribble, says nothing more about it*

I started figure skating when I was 7, and at 11 I practiced four days a week. You'd think she at least explain how training = muscle building = you weigh more, but nope! Fortunately for both of us I never cared about my body in that way, but I did wonder if there was something wrong with me. It wasn't until I told this to mom I got why this was unacceptable.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I remember comparing my waist to Jasmine's at six years old, and hating it because it was round compared to hers.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
It affects different people in different ways. I watched a lot of the same Disney movies listed in this thread, played Barbies a lot AND I had a mother who frequently harped about my weight/appearance and put strict limits on my food intake even before I was a teen, and I'm not anorexic or bulimic. I don't know why.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Cartoons are more beautiful than humans.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
3DPG?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes it's how other people go on about it. For me the most damaging was being a slightly chubby kid and liking how Snow White had the same rounded arms that I did, but everyone I knew called her the "fat princess" and how gross that was and that she'd look so much better with a trimmer waist and smaller arms. So what I heard was...if that girl is fat, what the hell am I? I was 9. That shit hurts.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-02 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I never heard anyone call Snow White "the fat princess"! That is so sad. :( {{hugs}}

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Because a lot of kids see more cartoons than live action shows, and even those shows don't usually have average sized women. You get an idea of body image from the images you see the most, obviously.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I was convinced I had a black outline, just like in cartoons. If I turned juuust the right way I'd be able to find it, someday. When you're a kid, and that's your exposure, you start to think that's what you're supposed to look like.