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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-06 03:53 pm

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Most and least practical outfits

[personal profile] aboutelle 2014-12-06 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
What was the last movie/tv show/videogame whatever that made you go "Seriously? That's what you wear to slay dragons/catch criminals/save the world?" or "Is that hairdo even possible to do in a post-apocalyptic world without curling irons and blow-dryers?"

And when was the last time you were positively surprised by the thought put into a character's outfit?

Inspired by watching Mockingjay today. Katniss' fishtail braid is pretty durable (plus she's only wearing it hours at a time and not days like in the games) and her outfit does seem like it might actually protect her vital organs.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
The new Batgirl costume, which has Babs doing acrobatics in a fitted leather biker jacket. Seriously, it is so stupid. Fitted leather does not flex like that. For an acrobatic crimefighter, lycra actually does make more sense than leather. Especially form fitted leather.

I'm willing to cut more slack for outfits that just go with pure rule of cool, yes it is unrealistic, but declaring rule of cool lets you knowingly throw realism to the wind. Declaring that you are going to make the character's outfit realistic, then actually ignoring realism to go with something that isn't realistic but is... I'm trying to avoid saying "politically correct" because that makes me sound like I'm a gamergating, sex-perving, basement-dweller, and I'm not. I just object to lauding Batgirl's new jacket as more realistic than the lycra when it is still as much rule of cool as the lycra was, just in the "strong female character"-esque direction.

Look, you want to have Babs wear not a wheelchair a "tough, fiesty girl" type of outfit then that is fine. Totally cool with it. However, don't try and sell me the idea that a fitted biker jacket is a practical choice for an acrobat-hero. That won't wash. She'll do a move that raises her arms above the shoulder line and the villain of the week will have a good idea on whether she has a pierced belly button.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
IRL, in situations where you might be engaging in close combat, long hair is a liability, even if it's braided. It's too easy for an enemy to grab it.
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Re: Most and least practical outfits

[personal profile] aboutelle 2014-12-06 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You're absolutely right of course. It's just that I've completely accepted that (most) fiction will differ to reality in that regard. So when I see a fighter with long hair, I never think "You should get a hair cut". But I do get irritated when a character has a hairstyle that would require way more time and effort (or a professional stylist) than the show implied they put into it.
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Re: Most and least practical outfits

[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-12-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
People always say this, and it's true, but a lot of 'close combat' in movies and such is kind of 'Surprise! we're being attacked!!' kind of thing, and it's unrealistic to expect that everyone is just going to hack all their hair off.

Although it *did* very much annoy me in the second Iron Man when Black Widow *took her hair down* to go fight (yay for sexy, curly hair) rather than leave it up in the super-practical style she had when she was assisting Pepper.
Edited 2014-12-07 00:12 (UTC)

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, well Katniss is a specialist with a ranged weapon, so she would avoid close-close combat normally, yes? Not for the Games, that is close combat and if I were picked, a haircut would be among the top things I'd do to prepare. Y'know, aside from the freaking out about my imminent death.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Kingdom Hearts 2.5 just came out, and some of the outfits... um. Let's just say Tetsuya Nomura was in fine form. Donald's hat has at least two zippers on it, and Sora is wearing at least four belts on his pants and legs alone. From a somewhat more practical perspective, Sora is wearing the same baggy-shorts-and-short-sleeves outfit in everywhere from Christmas Town and the Underworld to Agrabah. (All of this also applies to the original version of 2, but it's on my mind because of the remake.)

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved the bit in Disney's "Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas" where the ship gets iced up and we see the pirate crew's version of winter gear. I mean, I know it was a supernatural storm and they were caught by surprise, but if you're not going to put on a shirt, why the hell are you bothering with a scarf? And the other guy, who put a fur waistcoat on instead of a plain one and called it good. I always giggle at that scene so much. There's Sinbad and a few of the other suddenly in full coats and furs, just for contrast, and then ... these guys.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I like to watch CSI Classic, but the fact the female CSIs run around with long flowing hair, potentially shedding all over the crime scenes, has always bothered me.

Prime Suspect, the Helen Mirren show, used to send SOCOs into crime scenes wearing plastic suits and bonnets to avoid contamination. I always liked that.
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Re: Most and least practical outfits

[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-12-07 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, this. That's why i initially loved 'Bones', she went to crime scenes in a coverall and Wellies, with safety goggles and her hair up in a bun. Yay, practicality! Nothing like watching that blonde woman (can't remember her name) on the Miami CSI go to investigate a BURNED OUT BUILDING in a white linen suit and heels.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I hate that too. I can see why plastic suiting isn't visually interesting, so these days I count it as a positive if they make the people at the crime scene wear plastic shoe-covers.

The ME on Lewis, Dr. Hobson, is consistently in coveralls (field) or scrubs (lab). So nice to see. *cough Dr. Isles cough*

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yes THIS. I hate it even more when the men go in properly attired, but the women are there in revealing outfits and hair down. It's ridiculous.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Any female character doing action in heels. Or wearing cat suits.

from cosplay experience (lol) I can assure that they are not practical for either crime fighting or crime causing. unless your crime is tripping over shit and somehow causing property damage.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
sa

oops that was meant to reply to the thread not your comment

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
AY(accidentally)RT-- it's true, though. If I ever make a movie with a female action hero, she's going to be wearing practical clothes and probably Doc Martens. Or blundstones. Something she can kick an enemy to death with!

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
This is a really generic answer but female video game armor. Everyone knows how crazy it is - often bras and thongs are expected to be suitably protective as long as they are metal. But even the stuff that seems like the designer tried to be a bit less obvious. Like boob armor, I mean, full plate that's sculpted to fit women's breasts.

Just no. Someone jabs you with a weapon, that curvy bit is going to easily aim the pressure into spots that make the stab much, much worse - aiming it just above or between the breasts is a great way to die.

So I'm always impressed when I see armor that actually covers a woman and doesn't fall into the terrible "boob armor" lie. And you do occasionally see it! Aveline in Dragon Age 2 wore normal armor. Can't comment on how her hair was left down or the scarf around her neck, but overall pretty damn good for a female video game tank character.
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Re: Most and least practical outfits

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-12-07 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Dragon Age: Inquisition is pretty good about practical armor as well. (Or at least it isn't nearly as bad as most games.)

The funny thing is Bull is probably the worst offender but you CAN give him armor that covers his chest, it's just harder to find. There's a fun convo about (Cassandra's) practical armor in game, actually. (Which, btw, she looks gorgeous in, despite how covered she is.)

I always liked Aveline's armor and aesthetic; she always looked ready for everything. Isabela could be a hoot, but that outfit was a bit much for me.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Motherfucking IN TIME.

The main female character (I forget the actor's name), spends the whole movie running around and jumping off buildings in sky-high heels. That sort of thing totally breaks the immersion and realism of the movie for me.

Also there's a swimming scene where she's wearing full make-up and it's all perfect, but I honestly expect that from Hollywood these days.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I remember that. She looked really good in the movie but, seriously, it was ridiculous.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
I know! I was seriously digging her eye make up.

But yeah. Those heels. Not good at all.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't even notice her makeup or clothing, I'm just happy you brought up this movie.

Re: Most and least practical outfits

(Anonymous) 2014-12-07 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was watching Covert Affairs with my sister and the protagoinst, who's supposed to be a super-spy, follows somebody in a car and gets out of the car and follows them into an abandoned building and she's still wearing four inch HOT PINK spike heels and I'm just ...

I mean, I keep comfy walking shoes in my car as a matter of course, and I work in a call center. How could somebody who's an actual Secret Agent not do the same thing?