[ SECRET POST #2897 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2897 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Tauriel Debate

[(Anonymous)]

Tolkein's writing was a reflection of his time. I can see the validity of arguments both for keeping it as it was in the book, and changing it to reflect modern life.

Having not read the book and (unfortunately) having seen the movie, I can only say this: did they have to make her such a goddamned Mary Sue? FFS.

Re: Tauriel Debate

[(Anonymous)]

"Tolkein's writing was a reflection of his time."

There were plenty of books written in Tolkien's time (and before it) that included female characters. Chronicles of Narnia, for one.

Re: Tauriel Debate

[(Anonymous)]

I meant more that Tolkein was... well kinda misogynistic. Which was common at that time. And technically his books did include some female characters, especially in LOTR.

Re: Tauriel Debate

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure C.S. Lewis was a shining example of feminism, but he included far more female characters than Tolkien. It's not like I'm trying to pick on you, per se, but I think the "______ is a product of his time" gets overused. In this case, it doesn't even make a whole lot of sense, since being a misogynist (even a misogynist on level with his contemporaries for that time period) doesn't really explain why Tolkien didn't include many female characters. it's a theory, but one that doesn't stand up very well when you consider that there were definitely books with female characters during that time period, written by authors whose attitudes about women and gender roles were just as stodgy as Tolkien's.

Re: Tauriel Debate

[philstar22]

And I'd say Narnia was actually worse. At least in Tolkien's writings some of the women fight. Lewis was all "it is a terrible thing when women fight" and gave the female characters specifically gendered roles even more so than Tolkien.