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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-10 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2899 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2899 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
you say that like "funny haha," but one of the first things you learn as a Disney cast member is that any idea you come up with during your employment there is automatically theirs. It's in the contract, or was when I was there in the late 90s-early 00s.
To wit, I was having lunch with a fellow CM one day, having a private conversation about how no one was coming to our area any more because there was only one real attraction open there at the time (it was during an extensive parkwide reimagining and a lot was closed for refurb)and it was kind of aged, so we were throwing around ideas to throw at entertainment to spice up the place and get people to venture our way and 6 weeks later, they introduced our idea, without our knowledge, without giving us credit. Turns out there was an imagineer eating near us and he eavesdropped and took the idea. Fuckers.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
But this is standard in most work contracts today. You don't own your own ideas during the time you work for a company, even if you develop them outside work hours.

My brother developed an idea for his own business, and had to pretend that he'd developed it before/after working for the company. He was sensible enough not to go chatting about his ideas with work colleagues.

Just read your work contracts, people. Have a little sense.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Jeez, how is that even legal to do that? We need proper employee protection laws. I mean I can understand not using company resources, or using privileged information to steal clients, but any idea whatsoever, even if you dreamt it up at home? How is that possible?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
My country has pretty good employee protection laws, but still anything you think up or discuss on work time belongs to work. You can think up things at home all you like.
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[personal profile] replicantangel 2014-12-11 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly it's for people who are being paid to think - it makes sense the company wants to keep the ideas of their people that they hired to do just that. An engineer at GE, for example, might be getting paid to make more efficient refrigeration. If he's at work or at home in the shower when inspiration strikes, that's his job, and they want the fruits of that. Otherwise, any employee could say "no, I thought of this in the shower at home" and run off and create a refrigeration company with the new idea and directly compete with GE. Obviously, they don't want that.

If you're a janitor at GE and you come up with a new way to do refrigeration, that's far less likely to be a problem if you leave GE and create that new company. That wasn't your job, and it's probably not even in your contract. Better be prepared to prove you didn't use company resources though (like looking at the big boards engineers use to spitball their ideas). Lengthy court battles have been fought over such things, but generally, the ideas the company keeps have to be relevant to their job. It makes sense really, or people would be screwing over their employers in order to compete with them all the time with the excuse that they thought of the idea at home.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that came off as condescending. We were 18 at the time. Do you think an average 18 year old college sophomore majoring in art knows shit about contract law? Sorry your obvious law degree allows you to be so superior about it. We were in a crowded cafeteria having a private conversation. We weren't thinking we needed to protect ourselves from corporate spies, god damn.
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[personal profile] thistlechaser 2014-12-11 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was going to say, that's standard, not some Disney suck.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
See, this is why I have never knowingly put in any effort at any job I've worked at. No original thought whatsoever. It ain't my job, and I ain't paid to think.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-11 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
as a former Imagineer I'm cracking up

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck you and all the fucking imagineers.