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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-11 07:12 pm

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[personal profile] morieris 2014-12-12 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
You and so many others.

I'm indifferent, but I want to ask; Was there this much strife when everyone else was cast for comic book movies of material no one cared about until the MCU train came along? I think the closest thing I've seen was "How does a TALKING RACCOON get a movie before a person of color?"

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
With Marvel - Mark Ruffalo getting cast for Banner/Hulk was a major disappointment for people at first. For DC - Heath Ledger as Joker. I'm sure there have been others, but they're the first two that come to mind.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. I don't know if he's a good cast for Banner, but I'm too attracted to Ruffalo to care anymore. He did a good job in Avengers, though.

I hope Ben Cumberbatch does a good job on the movie, but I am not optimistic. Marvel was already spread thin on quality.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Long, long ago there was a massive, world-rending shitfit over the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I remember that! "Mr Mom is Batman?! That's ridiculous."

Michael Keaton is still my fave.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I can only speak to this for myself, but personally, I kind of care more about Doctor Strange than I do about most other superheroes. I think the only ones I care about more are the X-Men, and the first X-Men movie came out when I was 10 and far too young to give a shit about casting.

So, like, yeah, I'm reacting more to this than to other casting decisions, because I give more of a shit about Doctor Strange.

I think the other factor, for me, is that Doctor Strange seems harder to turn into a good movie. Avengers, you can do blowy-up-shit, Doctor Strange is a little more complex. So increasing that degree of difficulty and limiting yourself with what looks like a poor casting choice only adds to that. So it's another difficulty.

It bugs me.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's the Sherlock fandom.

I knew Cumberbatch before Sherlock, and I like him. It's the fact that Sherlock fandom has exploded so hard, and both Cumberbatch and Freeman are in so very much different genre stuff right now.

And then fans do fusions, because it's funny:
I've seen Sherlock/DoctorWho for no particular reason (well, maybe they're the only present-day British shows a given fan watches, but that's a thin hook to hang a coat on).
Hobbit/Sherlock joke fusions.
Probably Hitchhiker'sGuide/JJTrek fusions. (Haven't looked myself, but I've heard they exist.)
Eventually there will be a FifthEstate/Fargo/Potterverse/OriginalStarTrekjustbecause fusion. With or without gay orgies. Just to troll everyone.

It's getting out of hand. And there are a lot of Cumberhaters, more than ChrisWhoever-haters, more than SebastianStan-haters. So it turns into a troll war.

I think the whinging is going to get annoying. Marvel/Disney will happily make money off it, but the rest of us have to worry that it'll be a generic Cumberbatch performance where he sort of sulks through the movie for a paycheck. (I've seen decent actors sort of waddle through comic-book movies with bad direction before. Disappointment is expected.)

And for what? So an elegant old-school American character can be played by a modern British sex symbol? It makes me sad. Why doesn't the USA seem to produce Stephen Strange types anymore, or rather, why doesn't Hollywood think that their own country can?

Re: It bugs me.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Most Sherlock/Doctor Who crossovers are primarily because Steven Moffat currently is the showrunner for both shows.

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. I knew that once.
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-12-12 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
People threw a shit fit over Michael B. Jordan's casting as the Human Torch last year, but that was more in the fanboy comic book forum sphere than the tumblr sphere. Same thing happened with Idris Elba for Heimdall.

I think that with MCU most of the major casting had already happened before the fandom really got big. It's only in this 'second wave' of casting that the fandom is already quite established. And there wasn't an outcry for Paul Rudd's casting as Ant-Man because a) not many people mind Paul Rudd. b) not many people care about Ant-Man anyway.
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[personal profile] philippos42 2014-12-12 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Does anyone actually find Paul Rudd objectionable, I wonder.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
For me, he's just kind of there. I don't feel particularly strongly about him one way or the other.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-12 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
I remember being this huge debate over Hugh Jackman being cast as Wolverine, primarily because of his height. Cue fanboy outrage in the vein of 'Wolverine's supposed to be Short! And Canadian! Why are you casting this Tall Australian?!'