[ SECRET POST #2901 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2901 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Legally Blonde]


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[Mikey Way, My Chemical Romance]


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05. [ SPOILERS for American Horror Story: Murder House (season 1) ]



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06. [ SPOILERS for Into the Woods ]



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07. [ WARNING for non-con/rape ]



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08. [ WARNING for non-con/rape ]



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09. [ WARNING for genocide, etc ]



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10. [ WARNING for incest ]



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11. [ WARNING for abuse ]

[Begin Again]


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12. [ WARNING for suicide ]

[Starsky and Hutch]












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Comments

[sabotabby]

Haha, yes. I am quite fond of Germany! (Even the language, which at least sounds good in music, if not so much in speech.)

But seriously, I have so many problems with that movie. Why focus on a white saviour narrative and paint all the Jews as helpless victims when you could make a movie about, say, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising? Why the schmaltzy music and the selective use of colour to make you feel extra sad. It was just saccharine and gross. The Holocaust was too horrible an event to make bad art about. Inglorious Basterds is 1000% better of a Holocaust movie, and it's not even historically accurate.

When I watched Schindler's List, of course, I wept buckets like everyone else but afterwards, I needed to take a shower and scrub all of that Spielberg sentimentality out of my skin.

[cushlamochree]

Well, Adorno famously said that all poetry was barbaric after Auschwitz, didn't he? Whether or not it was any good.

I'm actually inclined to disagree, just in the sense that I think some kind of exposure to it, some kind of expression of the reality, is better than none at all. I agree that it would be far better if the exposure was better, but couldn't the argument be made that some kind of remembrance is better than none?

(That said, for what it's worth, I've never actually seen Schindler's List)

[cushlamochree]

No, I totally get where you're coming from. I agree that remembrance of that kind of some weak stuff. I guess I'm just being cynical and thinking that the choice is between that particular kind of flawed, weak remembrance, or nothing at all.

Like, obviously, the best solution is to have something that represents the reality of the thing. But if we're taking it as a given that we're never going to get that, where do we go from there? And it seems to me that even a poorly framed unrealistic version at least accomplishes something.

But, again, I can completely understand where you're coming from.

[sabotabby]

There's also Adorno's "no poetry after Auschwitz" thing. Which I disagree with, as I don't think the Holocaust is such an exceptional point in human history that art can't be made about it. But film is a particularly difficult medium to portray horror—and Hollywood film in particular—especially in its tendency to glamourize and sensationalize. (That's actually why I liked Inglorious Basterds, as it was all about film as sensationalism, with WWII and the Holocaust as a backdrop.)

The Act of Killing remains the best film I've ever seen about a real atrocity. I guess it's not fiction per se, but it has enough fantasy elements that I think it qualifies. Naturally, it was controversial as all hell and didn't win an Oscar.

[sabotabby]

Oh, completely understandable. I tend to avoid that sort of thing unless I have it on good authority that it's not mawkish crap.

I recommend The Act of Killing to everyone, but I would have a hard time watching it a second time. I had to pause multiple times while watching it to go do something else, look at kitten pictures or whatever. It's the most brutal thing I've ever watched. But if you want to understand why people commit atrocities, it's the best examination of that mentality I've ever seen.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you watched "Defiance", starring Daniel Craig?

[sabotabby]

No, but I think you had me at Daniel Craig.