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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-13 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2902 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2902 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
you're paying for their time and materials used, not just the finished product, dumbass.

Sorry people aren't giving you free shit.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, no.
They don't sell the (percentage of) materials used, they sell the product and I'm not asking anything free, so try again.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
If you went to a woodcarver, you'd be paying for their time + materials used, not just the final product. Time + Materials is how they get the price.

If you commissioned someone to make you a prop for cosplay, you'd be paying for the materials and the time it takes to make that item.

Why is it different when going to an artist?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Look, no one sells something for less than the price of materials and labor. But people don't buy time, materials and expertise, but the result of those things.

The problem with fanarts is that part of the product is not from any of that, but is the intellectual creation of someone else and in fact, they depend on that to be able sell, since selling their own intellectual property is not that easy and they know their potential customer wants *insert famous character* not an unknown one.

Using that for profit is something that morally sketchy and not legal (with some very few exceptions) even if few bother suing in such cases.

(I'm not going to answer anything else after this; I get people think intellectual property rights shouldn't be respected even if money is involved because fanartist are so ~special~ and so they're entitled to whatever they want.)

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, whatever, freeloader. They pay for the materials used. They pay for the time that goes into it. Otherwise, I'd just hand you the paints and you could do it yourself.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
They're not asking for free art, jeez.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
No, but they're disrespecting the time it takes to produce art and saying that only original art should be paid for.

Fine, then, if you don't like it, let me hand you the materials to make a bracelet since my time isn't worth respecting.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
If you're infringing on someone else's rights to make, yeah, I do have an issue with that.

Why should I respect the artist's time when they're not respecting the original owner? If they're making money off it that is; I don't have an issue with the artist something copyrighted for fun they have no plans to sell.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
da

Your argument makes no sense.

A bracelet = a one-off individual item that actually leaves the creator's hands and goes to the purchaser.

Fanart = piggybacking other people's creative endeavors for a JPG that then gets posted all over the internet.