[ SECRET POST #2910 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2910 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You agree with the OP, then.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, not at all! I don't sob on fandom secrets when an artist refuses to give me pretty art for pennies and act like they're horrible for noticing that I was being a little bitch about it.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, art isn't important enough to me to spend any money or even social capital on it. My only horse in this race is being tired of reading fanartist martyr routines.

(If I had to read a lot of people endlessly complaining about fanart commission prices, I'd be pretty tired of that, too, but I don't think I've ever seen that without an accompanying fanartist martyr tirade, while I have seen the tirade without any complaining, so that's what I'm complaining about.)

I do care enough to buy a laptop, and you bet your ass I'm complaining about how the prices are ridiculous.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

DA. The reason you don't often see the complaints without the "accompanying fanartist martyr tirade" is because typically most artists are polite enough and have enough tact to not call people out on an individual basis publicly every time it happens. It happens A LOT in places where you won't see it, like in an artist's private inbox.

I don't like to publicly humiliate people, even if they are being rude and undervaluing my art, so the most you'd ever see from me talking about it in public is to link to articles about how to commission an artist or to reblog from someone who has an opinion similar to mine. I don't ever talk about specific clients on a public basis though, a lot would have to happen for me to even *consider* talking about clients in public.

If someone finds my rates too expensive, I understand, I have a budget as well, which is the whole reason I need to have my rates be what they are. But there's a good way and a bad way to go about it, I don't think complaining directly to the artist is a good way (you can ask *politely* if they do discounts, but this is not Best Buy or some corporation, the way people deal with artists absolutely should not be the same as the way they deal with big companies.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

You can complain all you want about how the prices of laptops are ridiculous, and you can search around for the best bargain, but if you walk into a store that sells electronics and start trying to haggle, it's not going to work. And if you throw a stink about the prices while in the store, it's still not going to work. In fact, if you throw too big of a stink, it might get you kicked out.

And that's at an actual, proper, business.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

But you can haggle in an electronics store. You can haggle in pretty much any store. Westerners have gotten so used to excepting the store price that they never seem to bother trying. It takes more preparation but it can be done.

And even if the seller or store does refuse to match you, you can't kick you for trying.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Uh. Yeah, they can. They can literally kick you out of the store.

And honestly? No, I don't think haggling should be a super big thing. It's most often done because people are whiny and feel they're entitled to the lowest price.

If you don't like the price, fucking deal and wait for a sale or go elsewhere. :/

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Literally? They literally kick you out of the store? That sounds like assault to me. I mean they can ask you to leave and metaphorically kick you out, but I've never seen a store literally kick someone out.

Frankly for trying to haggle most stores won't even do that. What they'll do is politely reiterate the price is the price, but then try to engage you in conversation about the product in order to try and get you to buy it anyway. If you've shown an interest in buying it, even at a reduced price, then most store managers expect their employees to make a good effort at trying to sell the product at sticker price; 'cause that is their job.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I work retail, so don't tell me how to do my job. I've been doing it for years.

And you know what I mean. They will call security if you keep pushing that haggling after you're told "no" and escort you off the premises.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

You haven't heard of price-match policies, have you, anon?

[(Anonymous)]

Okay speaking as someone who works in retail? Maybe it's different for different products (I work in arts and crafts), but you cannot haggle with me. You cannot haggle with me. I mean sure, you can try but it will not do you a single fuck of good.

The most I can do is check to see if there's a sign where you said there was one, match the price if you can prove a competitor has had a lower price on an identical item in the past seven days, or help you find coupons online. Beyond that, I literally cannot change the price of our products just because you think it's worth less than the store price. They track those kinds of changes and I will very likely lose my job - I'm literally supposed to write down every time I change the price of an object for whatever reason. It's the same for all our employees.

If you walk into our store and try to haggle with us, you do nothing but waste both our time. You can scream in our faces an refuse to move until we comply. We may give you the equivalent of a competitor coupon or something (which surprise surprise is also against company policy and could get us into trouble), to get you off of our backs and to stop wasting our and other customers' time. But if that kind of shitty behavior is really what you consider to be "haggling" then I'm glad that Westerners have mostly stopped doing it.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

No, you...really can't haggle in an electronics store. At times, they can give certain discounts, but those discounts are tied to a set metric and cannot be determined by the buyer.

The reason Westerners have gotten used to accepting the store price is because the store price, with a few exceptions (all of which don't fall under "haggling"), is the price.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

if you find the prices "ridiculous" then you're not the intended market, are you?