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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-27 04:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2916 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2916 ⌋

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dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-12-27 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
If you bought the car, signed no contract, and received no legal guarantees, well, I can only say it would be very stupid of you?

Besides, the two types of transactions are hardly comparable, at least as long as we are talking middle-class people. The amount of money you lose if you buy a bad car is just so much more than the amount you lose if you hire an ineffective editor.

It is not an invalid concern. If the OP's friend were in a good financial situation and were simply seeking to sell their services because they wanted more money, I'd understand OP's worries perfectly well. But the friend in question needs the money to pay their medical bills. I think there may be something wrong with the OP's priorities.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-27 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
But the question wasn't whether or not it's a smart idea, it was whether or not it was (in your own words) "an entirely fair business transaction".

It's also worth noting that the concept of fairness is not attached to a specific dollar amount. If I buy a candy bar and it turns out to be a piece of chocolate coated plywood, that's still not a fair transaction. It doesn't matter that I'm out a dollar vs. out thousands of dollars.
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-12-27 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm sorry, I misworded it. I didn't mean "fair" in any sort of philosophical sense, just in that there couldn't be any legal repercussions.

For what it's worth, though, I think that the law covers the majority of the truly unacceptable cases and that the OP's friend's activities aren't anything that could be said to be horribly wrong (morality-wise). But that is, of course, subjective.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-27 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I see. I'm not really familiar with that usage of "fair", to be honest. I agree that it's not illegal, not a transaction that involved poorly executed service in exchange for cash doesn't sound very ethical, unless the clients are aware that it's going to be poorly executed... which I doubt.
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-12-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's just a case of sorting one's priorities out. It IS not nice to offer ineffectual fanfic editing for purchase. It is also not nice to be unable to pay your medical bills. Neither is nice, but one is less nice than the other, and I do think the OP should get some perspective here, especially as their friend is perfectly unaware they're doing anything wrong. They aren't even trying to deceive people on purpose.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with you in this particular situation, though it'd be nicer if the OP's friend offered a service they could perform well. But this reasoning:

"...but one is less nice than the other..."

Nah. You can't really use that as a justification because any number of rotten things are better than not having the money to pay your medical bills, including robbing senior citizens or check fraud. If I have to have saltines and mayonnaise for dinner because I have no money for food, that's not nice... but it doesn't justify sneaking into someone else's house and taking their flatscreen TV so I can pawn it for grocery money.

"They aren't even trying to deceive people on purpose."

I agree. It's too bad that having good intentions doesn't really make the end result (a poorly edited fic someone paid for) any less bad, though.


(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't make the end result bad, but it also doesn't make it an unfair business transaction.