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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-27 04:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2916 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2916 ⌋

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Re: slightly ot but

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'd like to see you try to read a full-length fic written that way.

Minor, as in one or two typos a chapter? No, that's not going to affect the immersion too much (assuming the typos don't occur in some hilariously inappropriate place, in which was then yes, that'd throw me out completely).

The fact is that if you want your work to be understood then you have to make the effort to present it that way. Writing illegible trash and then screaming "it's my artistic license!" at anyone who says they can't finish it is pretty fucking stupid.

Re: slightly ot but

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
geez, now you're just trying to misunderstand me :/

I see that this is some kind of ideal that gets taken Very Serrrious, that's what I was asking about.

nobody wtnas to wtire lkee this as art stöyle

Re: slightly ot but

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I really fail to understand why you don't recognize why the basics are important. Why you can't just skip them and assume everyone will forgive you and read your illegible work anyway.

You write to express an idea. You publish to share that idea. If no one can understand a word you're saying because you've eschewed the very foundations of the skill for idk, being artsy or some unique special snowflake for whom the rules just don't apply because you're so brilliant, then it isn't going to matter how amazing your idea or message might be.

Re: slightly ot but

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I really fail to understand why you think I think they're NOT important.
You're ranting against a straw man that isn't there.

I'm asking about general cultural priorities here, because it's not like this is the norm everywhere. Not every writing class lectures the first 10 minutes about getting your abc right. Not every "how to write" article treats people like analphabets.

That people can't wrap their heads around the fact that it could be different is frankly astonishing to me. Chill. Nobody is taking your spelling and grammar away.

This basic stuff should be a given at some point, somewhere around 10th grade maybe. And some people have legitimate reasons for screwing it up somewhat, not because they're "unique special snowflakes", but because they have dyslexia, or bad school systems. I think unclenching your buttock about getting things wrong would help more than starting every creative writing tip and critique with anxious reminders.

Re: slightly ot but

(Anonymous) 2014-12-28 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"This basic stuff should be a given at some point, somewhere around 10th grade maybe."

You know, that might actually be the big difference. In America at least, they no longer really teach grammar in grade school, so a lot of people reach adulthood without understanding the basics. A lot of writing tips revolve around grammar because, for a lot of American writers, grammar and spelling sadly aren't a given.

Our education system sucks.

Re: slightly ot but

(Anonymous) 2014-12-29 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This is definitely a problem--without learning the mechanics, it's harder for people to understand WHY something is wrong or unclear. People who are avid readers often get it more or less intuitively--something will sound off, even if they can't pinpoint the reason (grammatical rule) why, but not everyone will.