[ SECRET POST #2918 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2918 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: fandom stuff you're super defensive about

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, there definitely are plots even if they don't always work out - season 6, with the best will in the world, was a failure, but that doesn't mean the plots don't exist.

Now you can certainly make arguments against mog fan's style of storytelling but that's a very different thing

Re: fandom stuff you're super defensive about

[(Anonymous)]

Name one. Name me ONE plot. Even one that didn't work out. Name me ONE plot, written by Steven Moffat, that demonstrates coherent, cogent, motivation, focus, and action.

Re: fandom stuff you're super defensive about

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I don't even need a beginning, middle, and end. Just a plot that moves the story forward (even backward IDEC) sensibly.

Re: fandom stuff you're super defensive about

[(Anonymous)]

I mean

We clearly both know about all the plots, it's not like I'm going to spring some episode or season you haven't heard of. I'm going to mention something and you're going to say it sucks, because why would you even ask the question if you didn't think they all sucked. What a weird way to phrase it

That said I thought the overarching plot of season 5 was good and worked.

Re: fandom stuff you're super defensive about

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Well, okay, the first thing is: I never said the plots sucked. I said they were lacking. As in, I see nothing resembling a cogent, coherent, well-constructed plot, that grabs, and holds, my attention, and entertains me all the way through, with a good storyline. I do not see this in individual episodes, nor even the "overarching plots" you mention. To me, those "overarching plots" (what I would call very loose attempts at continuity that usually neither work nor stick) seem to change whenever Moffat decides they need to change...for no logical (in-universe logical) reason whatsoever.

See, I have been posting constructive criticism all through this thread, yet everyone else is talking about all "the hate." I honestly don't care if the man himself is blue-and-purple-polka-dotted, eats mealworms for breakfast, and spews acid out his face at his enemies. My only criticism is for the writing. Regardless of the individual who wrote it.