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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-29 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #358 ]


⌈ Secret Post #358 ⌋

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[identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com 2007-12-30 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
41. THANK YOU! That little comic annoyed me because it concluded that the Mai haters are in it for the boysex. Er, did you miss the part where most of them are rooting for Katara? Last I checked, she's a girl too.

I dislike Maiko not because I dislike Mai as a character (she's gotten better in season three, though she's still doesn't inspire the massive <3<3<3 that most of the other characters do), but because she seems to represent everything that he's eventually going to have to break free from. Their relationship worked well while he was playing the part of loyal princeling, but I don't see how she could have any constructive part in his life as a redeemed man.

(And no, for the record, I'm not a Zutaran.)

[identity profile] sparklemagpie.livejournal.com 2007-12-30 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I find that most people who blindly hate Mai but love their Zutara also hated Jin and Song for getting anywhere NEAR being in the way of their chosen pairing.

Either nobody is good enough for Zuko, or there is only ONE girl who is - the girl that everyone met first and identifies with. Katara is their one and only 'self-avatar' - they can pretend to be her, or Sue the hell out of her in their fanfics, so that it's like a 'self-insertion fanfic but not'.

If Katara had come in later in the series she would probably get the same venom and someone else would be playing fangirl insert puppet. -_-


That said, I chiefly ship Zutara where Zuko is concerned, and fans like that make me embarassed to admit it most of the time.

[identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com 2007-12-30 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I find that most people who blindly hate Mai but love their Zutara also hated Jin and Song for getting anywhere NEAR being in the way of their chosen pairing.

Ah. Now if I frequently ran into people like that, I might understand the Zutara hate. Jin and Song are both lovely girls, and I can see how Zuko could learn a lot from either one of them: Jin because she's confident and willing to help him through his social awkwardness, and Song because she's compassionate and her history forces him to really face down his demons.

Either nobody is good enough for Zuko...

Now this is a sentiment I really don't get. I've seen threads titled "Who deserves Zuko?" as though he's God's gift to women and any girl would be lucky to have him. It's as though they've completely overlooked his arrogance, anger issues, selfish tendencies, and insecurities – to say nothing of the afore mentioned social awkwardness. Yes, underneath all that he has a good, brave heart, but he's hardly the biggest fish in the sea, if you know what I mean.

[identity profile] sparklemagpie.livejournal.com 2007-12-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, Zuko viewed as god's gift to women makes me sort of laugh too, but crazy fangirls don't always have the best taste in men.

But, well, Zuko is what I like to call 'attractively parcelled damaged goods'.

He's an awesome underneath a lot (A LOT) of flaws. However, as we all know, 'true wuv' is all he needs to fix those flaws and become the perfect man, right? >_>


As a girl who, in her early years, fell for several real life boys with bad spots to them, under the illusion of thinking that my support and love could 'fix' them and their lives somehow... I don't find the 'omg Zuko is wonderful' attraction all that confusing.

Nothing gets attention from people like Young!Me, quite like a character that makes people want to baby and heal him.