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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-31 06:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2920 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2920 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Okay I agree with all of that first paragraph. But there are people who try to use the word Holocaust specifically just for the Jewish victims and that bothers me.

I kind of agree re: the second and kind of disagree. Because of course the Holocaust was a bizarre and unprecedented event. In terms of its scale, its organization, its underlying logic, it was completely unprecedented. I mean the idea that it wasn't just enough to drive the Jews out or to rough them up, but that it was necessary actually to kill all of them, was both novel and fucking horrifying. But of course, as you point out, neither antisemitism in society nor antisemitic violence was novel in itself.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
as mentioned below you really really should read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933#Hitler.27s_speech_before_the_passing_of_the_Enabling_Act

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I stand by what I said below (which wasn't directed at the speech specifically) in general terms. I would also say on looking at the speech again that I'm actually not entirely sure what you're trying to drive at by posting it? This is an honest question. While there's definitely antisemitic stuff in it, I'm just not seeing what's specifically relevant to this argument.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I'm the one who was talking about pogroms upthread. As another anon said, the ACTS of anti-Semitism are nothing new; the sheer industrial SCALE of anti-Semitism as enacted by the Nazis, was.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't unprecedented in terms of scale, but it was in sheer numbers.
During the Crusades a similar percentage of European Jewry was killed, but this was forgotten because of the Holocaust, and because time passed.
When Mohammad arose, there were hundreds of thousands of Jews on the Arab peninsula, all of which completely vanished.
Wholesale murder of Jews is a recurring phenomenon.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
Reliable source for either of those two claims pls

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
...have you never read fucking HISTORY?? Prove that the Trail of Tears happened!

literally half a second on wikipedia showed some sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres

I'll not bother searching further, since clearly if you gave a shit about being educated you could have googled it yourself, so you'll probably dismiss everything anyway.