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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-30 06:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #359 ]


⌈ Secret Post #359 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS. Also, one possibly triggering image!

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 240 secrets from Secret Submission Post #052.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 3 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] repeats, [ 1 2 ] too big, [ 1 ] huh?
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, December 30th, 2007.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 13

[identity profile] somnambulicious.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Nice strawman. If you have to resort to hyperbole just to find an example of how feminism hurts poor little men, I'd think that such an occurrence would be a statistical outlier - an interesting footnote, perhaps, but nothing compared to the injustices women suffer on a daily basis, and nothing really worth commenting on.

The ball-busting feminist - much like the yeti or the 'reverse racist' - may exist as a novelty, but not in large enough populations to have much of an effect on the overall environment, which is sexist and racist to begin with. Misandry isn't systemic the way misogyny is, and therefore it doesn't warrant the same concern.

And can we please nix the word "feminazi?" Using a word invented by Rush "Only Dykes Wear Cotton Underwear" Limbaugh doesn't exactly fit with your "be nice, don't be a bitch" paradigm.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Just because something's not a widespread threat doesn't make it any less a bad thing. Treating people like shit based on their gender is stupid no matter how you slice it.

And excuse me for using the only term I could think of at the time. Though I suppose 'rabid feminist' might have been a better choice.

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[identity profile] somnambulicious.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, being an ass is generally a bad thing. That's not the issue I was addressing. I want to know why, in a discussion of sexism, someone always has to bring up the "women sometimes hate men, too!" thing. In a discussion of racism, would you pipe up with "but once there was this black guy who used the term 'white devil'"? If a friend complained to you about homophobia, would you bring up that gay bar in Miami where they don't allow straight people?

No, because it's not relevant. What's more, bringing up those outlying circumstances takes attention away from the real, systemic problem of racism/homophobia/sexism and could make those problems look less serious than they are. It's unnecessary and even harmful to soften a blow that deservedly hits hard.

Also, we rabid feminists prefer the term "radical feminists." We're a little sensitive about our foaming-at-the-mouth issue.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Fine, it wasn't relevant. But you could've simply said 'that's irrelevant' rather than going all Snark-Snark Discussion Police on me.

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[identity profile] drworm.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I think you needed to know why it wasn't relevant.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me, but could you not assume I'm a Dumb Child who needs everything spelled out for them? All s/he had to say was "that's not relevant to the discussion" and I would've gotten it.
karel: (text; and girls have these things)

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[personal profile] karel 2007-12-31 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Way to be condescending, there.

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[identity profile] drworm.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, it's something I'm good at.
karel: (fir; future)

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[personal profile] karel 2007-12-31 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
That's hardly something to be proud of.

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[identity profile] drworm.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Pff, who cares what you say, you're a girl.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, lookit the cute troll.
karel: (text; and girls have these things)

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[personal profile] karel 2007-12-31 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Tits or GTFO :')

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[personal profile] karel - 2007-12-31 05:48 (UTC) - Expand

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[identity profile] scifitwin.livejournal.com - 2007-12-31 05:52 (UTC) - Expand

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com - 2007-12-31 05:53 (UTC) - Expand

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[identity profile] scifitwin.livejournal.com - 2007-12-31 05:52 (UTC) - Expand

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
And for that, you get a cookie.

...oh, drat, I seem to be out of cookies. Would you settle for a stale Tic-Tac instead?

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-31 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
And presenting, feminists being cunty even toward each other!

Great way to disprove the secret, girls.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Want some popcorn with that snark, little mousie?

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-31 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Right, because guys are never dickish to each other. It's only the icky girls who are mean!

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[identity profile] somnambulicious.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
Gee, is that all it takes to be "cunty" these days? The bar has seriously been lowered. I didn't even get a chance to use profanity. D:

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[identity profile] drworm.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
The fuck you talking about?
karel: (nana; chased by... I don't know what)

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[personal profile] karel 2007-12-31 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Because they must blind you with their superior reasoning skills and make you realize how wrong you really are. Duh.

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly!

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[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, I think I'm in love with you.

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[identity profile] mildmay.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
I believe in my women's issues classes we called them "radical feminists?" I always thought it was a good term.
Edited 2007-12-31 04:53 (UTC)

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-12-31 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
*nods* That sounds about right. :)

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-31 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
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