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(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

That's something I don't think I'll ever understand -- when there's a functional and welcoming platform that would've let fandom carry on without so much as a glitch (i.e. DW), why choose somewhere like Tumblr that's basically the total opposite? The formats, the layout, the messaging systems, the privacy issues... idgi. I get migrating from LJ because the place was becoming a cesspit of stupid administration and terribly thought out decisions, but why Tumblr?

In the case of my main fandom at the time of migration, it was basically "All the BNFs go there so we must be seen to be keeping up with them!" which is about as lemming-like as you can get. But when all your other friends have made the jump too, either you follow or you stay by yourself, cut off from everything.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard a lot about how Tumblr is great because users don't have to generate their own content.

And there I think is the crux of why people love it: laziness. BNFs and fans in general no longer have to be talented or erudite or capture the zeitgeist to get people to follow them, they just have to have enough time on their hands that they can constantly reblog pictures and gifs that other people have made or posted.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
this, tbh. I got over 2k followers just reblogging shit for a pairing.
Wheras on LJ you had discussions, and the people who got the most attention were those who created content.
What's still true is that porn rules the game...

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's so frustrating. I'm a content creator, but I only have about 25 followers. Everyone is following the people who reblog the things that every single other blog is reblogging.

But I'm still gonna focus on creating because, since I'm able to create, I feel like I should. I want to contribute to fandom and help keep it active and healthy, and even though I don't have a lot of followers, I think the best way for me to do that is to keep creating.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT That sounds so frustrating, anon. I create too, but I just flat out avoid Tumblr. I just submit to AO3, otherwise I'd go mad.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everyone is following the people who reblog the things that every single other blog is reblogging."

And when you think about it, the levels of sheer laziness inherent in that idea is frightening.

It's basically following the aggregator of aggregators of stuff they only found in the first place because seeking it out off your own steam (or, God forbid, make it yourself!) is just too damn hard.

You don't even have to interact with it, not even to the level of a "moar!" comment. Just click something and the site does all the interaction for you.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the most frustrating things about tumblr is to see someone post your content and get 50,000 notes where when you posted it there was only 5.

I mean you CAN as a content creator, get followers, and get people to reblog from you, but it can take time and you gotta make sure people know who you are so that when someone does repost your content, you find out about it.

I have a good amount of followers but sometimes my stuff still gets ignored until someone else decides to reblog it. I'm just usually glad when people reblog rather then repost, because even when a repost is credited you don't gain as many followers that way. Followers can be important, the more people who follow my work the more commissions I get, so it's something I'm grateful for.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes an incredible amount of sense.

It's also pretty depressing as far as the future of fandom goes, given that up until now it's revolved around content creation and not just content distribution.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
It's even worse after noticing that content distribution is very ineffective.
Not following the right people or not spending hours browsing the right tag means never finding a lot of stuff.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always assumed a lot of it was people new to the concept of fandom, who came through sites like twitter where there's also a limited amount of real interaction. Though that doesn't explain all the people used to the old form... maybe they were just used to twitter as well?
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-01-05 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
From everything I have observed of Tumblr (not having an account there), Twitter is still a lot more social.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't get it, either. Maybe it's just a low effort kind of thing, because people can "participate" by just reblogging or liking posts. The majority of people in fandom were always like this... quiet lurkers who consume, but don't create. Tumblr's great for that, but not so great for people who want to create and post things for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This is funny because I used to be a very active participant before. Tumblr is the reason I mostly lurk now.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Same here. Because creating and posting it to Tumblr is difficult with their user interface. (I do fic, not art, otherwise I might find it easier?) I get less helpful feedback and almost zero discussion since people thinking just clicking something to heart it is feedback enough. It's risky saying that, given how unkind FS is to writers who enjoy positive feedback in the form of comments, but I'm not under any obligation to write fic, period. Particularly not under circumstances I don't find enjoyable.

So I lurk, but my involvement in fandom is much diminished.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Right when LJ was going through the Harry Potter kidfic banning / "OMG the Ruskies!" phase that drove people away, DW had a couple of FandomWanks of its own that involved the founders and people close to them. (I think they're still detailed on FandomWank.) I'm still on LJ, will never go to DW because the wank in question involved them shitting all over people n my fandom. But there's so little fannish activity on LJ now that I do it all on Tumblr. There are actual discussions on Tumblr in my fandom, but I think it really depends on which one you're in.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in the spn fandom on tumblr and lj, but I am fairly new to both.

while I feel there *is* activity on lj, it also feels like there is a group mentality. The same people read eachothers fics and look at eachothers art, and as a new person it is hard to join.

On tumblr... I don't know. I dislike it for a lot of the reasons people have mentioned above. I dislike how *big* it is. people with 4000 followers. how can you even communicate? its seems so impersonal, and really? it's just as clique-y. but maybe that is fandom all over?
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