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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-04 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2923 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2923 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
You're not the only one, I feel the same way. Tumblr is accessible in a way LJ never was for me. And the people in this thread are just proving why tumblr is so popular for some people: there's a snootiness in the old guard that people who aren't *creating* are not really contributing anything to fandom. But some of us can't do that. For some, sharing things we like and seeing people like it, too, is just what we want and need to feel like we're a part of fandom.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
But you're not contributing. The person who made the thing you're sharing and vicariously getting attention from is the one contributing.

At best you're promoting, but for the most part people who do what you do are only promoting themselves, not the artwork/fic/whatever they're sharing.

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Gotta disagree with you there. For me, some of the people I follow are contributing to my fandom experience simply by acting as filters.

There's a lot of content pertaining to my interests that I'd never see if it required following the original creator, because that would mean putting up with all sorts of other crap that person is into that doesn't interest me. But if someone else following that person reblogs only the kind of things I like, I can follow them instead, give the shit I don't want a pass, and still enjoy the stuff I do. That person in the middle is performing a valuable service for me, even if they never create anything themselves.

NA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
That's why communities, mailing list and forums worked so well before, since they had an specific focus (a fandom, a ship, a character, etc) so a middleman service wasn't necessary.

That made things easier to find, no one had to do an extra job, off topic stuff was less common...

Now not knowing/following the right rebloger means never being able to find anything unless you're willing to waste hours browsing tags.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
And someone with opposing tastes to yours would say that those people acting as filters are spamming the tags with things they're not interested in. What's a valuable service to you is contributing absolutely nothing to somebody else.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Reblogs don't show up in the tags, only the original posts do. So people who reblog stuff aren't spamming any tags.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like the main problem with Tumblr is old farts ranting about how it sucks and is killing fandom when they don't even understand the most basic of its functions.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
da

yeah, totally agree. curating is invaluable, and i see way more content from creators via these filter blogs than i would without them.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that actually shows one of the weaknesses of the platform, though. When there were communities dedicated to specific fandoms and parts of fandoms, this kind of thing wasn't as necessary.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt, but 'creating' does not necessarily mean writing fic or providing art. Plenty of people on the old LJ-days-of-fandom did neither, but some of them wrote meta, people participated in discussions. All of that is content creation. So I don't know where you're getting the 'snootiness' from.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
If it's snooty to be tired as fuck of the "Oh I can't make anything, so I'll leech of someone else for insta-validation!" mentality, then count me as proud of being snooty.

If you can type on a screen, you can contribute something. Comments. Opinions. Feedback. SOMETHING. Riding other people's coattails -- even if it's just slapping a "IAWTC!" on someone's meta -- isn't participating in anything.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Da. I have never cared if fandom friends created or not, I met them through discussion, which is really hard to do on tumblr.

I have a lot of followers on tumblr, I don't think I've ever made a friend there though. Every other platform that has allowed for discussion (chat rooms, forums, lj, etc) I have made friends with.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Discussion IS content creation.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
But how are you contributing?

By rebloging the same stuff that has been rebloged so much than everyone else has already seen several time in their dashboards?
And are you really being part of the fandom by getting a few "likes" on a post of someone else's fanart or a random gif you found somewhere else?

IMO your comment here is a bigger participation and contribution that any of those.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Like the anon above said, there's a difference between creating and promoting something.

That's not to say fandom doesn't need, and in some cases rely upon, people promoting the things they find and enjoy.

But don't confuse that with contributing.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
For the most part, I agree with the other responses. Reblogging isn't really contributing anything. You clicked a button, good job, doing the same thing a zillion other people also did. I frequently see the same post on my dash multiple times, and I only follow twenty some tumblrs.

Saying that, I make an exception for fuckyeah tumblrs and the like. Consistently seeking out fandom/character/ship specific content and sharing it is, I think, contributing in a way reblogging stuff on a catch all tumblr is not.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I was active in LJ's heyday, so I guess you could call me a member of the old guard if you like. The issue I have isn't saying that lurkers and people who consume art without creating are without value. The point is that if all you have are lurkers and consumers and a UI that isn't creator-friendly, you don't really have much of a fandom. Now, I like gifs and screencaps a lot! But passing around the same gifs and screencaps over and over again isn't what fandom's about, for me.