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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-04 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2923 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2923 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
What bugs me is less the UI (there are extensions and add-ons that can help fix some of its worst deficits,) but the Tumblr social conventions that seem to be designed to actively shut down attempts at meaningful communication.

Ooooh, don't add a comment to someone else's post! That's rude!! Put them in the tags instead, where nobody will ever see them unless they're following you, or have an add-on that shows them, or they're actively going around checking out the tags on every single reblog of that post, and where the only way to reply to them is by copying and pasting the comments--either into a new post where nobody can see what the hell you're talking about, or tacked onto the end of the original one where it's frowned upon to put comments.

Don't say anything negative in a tagged post where it might be seen by people who disagree with you and spark a debate!

Don't post anything lengthy unless you put it under a cut (but go right ahead and reblog one of those 'color of the sky' gifsets that take up eight pages on peoples' dashboards, that's perfectly fine.)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, I agree so hard. Particularly with your first two points. I think it's a result of the mentality there that there's absolutely nothing worse you can do in the world than say something that might offend someone. There are so many unwritten rules that basically serve only to ensure nobody ever has to see anything that displeases them even slightly (or 'triggers' them, because tumblr can't seem to distinguish between the two).

They're creating a generation of people who are so ridiculously sensitive that they can't handle any kind of criticism or conflicting view. I wonder how these people can function in the outside world at all (I suspect that a lot of the time they can't).

As a mostly unrelated side point, I find it endlessly amusing how fiercely defensive tumblr users are of the rights of their content creators, eg. no adding comments, no removing original comments, no reposting elsewhere even with credit, no editing in any way even for personal use, no using any part of it without explicit permission etc. If you do any of those things you're basically Satan and you'll ruin the lives of those poor content creators (even if all they've 'created' is a filtered gifset from a cartoon). But at the same time they casually pirate movies, tv shows, comics, magazines, and music all the time without feeling even slightly remorseful about it.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with most of what you say, but the posting negative things into the tags is a greyer area imo, and there is a line that can be crossed between posting for discussion or organization and posting to start shit with the people you know will be hurt by the things you say.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I find that your first two points only really come into effect when a) someone adds a comment like "OMG! I agree! xD" which contributes nothing to the post at all, or b) someone posts something like (for lack of a better example coming to mind) "X/Y as a pairing sucks!" in the X/Y pairing tag, which also doesn't really contribute anything worthwhile, so for my part, I haven't witnessed how either of these social conventions have shut down meaningful communication.

Obviously Tumblr as a site is not entirely a hivemind (despite claims to the contrary), so these won't hold true with every user one encounters; however, they are common enough in my experience that I felt they should be brought up as counterpoints to those parts of your comment.

As for your third point - am I correct in presuming you're calling out the hypocrisy of some Tumblr users and not the idea of putting lengthy text under a cut in general? If so, I am in complete agreement, but if your thoughts lean more towards the latter, I must point out that this is not a Tumblr-exclusive convention, as it has been around since at least the heyday of LiveJournal.