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⌈ Secret Post #2925 ⌋

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Comments

[a_potato]

I think you're right, but I also think it's a bit ironic, considering how popular slash is, and how often female characters get thrown under the bus in order to pave the way for a slash ship.

At the same time, it can be really hard to separate personal preference from bigotry, so I can see why people would jump to that place. It might be a matter of looking at how a person views the original work rather than what s/he looks for in fic. For example, I like a lot of male characters and can relate to them. I just don't seek them out when it comes to consuming fanworks.

[(Anonymous)]

To be honest, I think that the "female characters get thrown under the bus in slash fic" bit is overblown in fandom. Are female characters ignored? Yeah…but so is everyone else who isn't in the main pairing.

Maybe it just seems worse with female characters because there's generally A LOT fewer of them than male characters and, if you're breaking up an existing couple, then it's obviously more awkward to fit the ex into the story than a general friend. And female characters are VERY often the love interests.

Are there instances of female characters being bashed to make way for the couple or acting as the antagonist in a really OOC way? Yep, but I think this is an equally common feature in non-canon het fic as well. I don't think it's somehow more misogynistic to do in slashfic though.

But I understand what you mean about wanting to consume fan works about women. For some of my fandoms, I just gender bend my favorite male characters because there aren't any significant female characters or they're poorly written. (Death Note is a big example. Female Light Yagami or L is just SO MUCH FUN.)

[a_potato]

Those are good points, and I would add that the fact that most works are heteronormative kind of almost guarantees that a female character is going to have to be pushed aside if someone prefers slash. I was more thinking about the people who go on about misogyny, but at the same time trash/dismiss female characters in deference to a ship. There's a lot of hypocrisy/irony, there.

It's also sad that we have so few female characters, you know? And it's sad that, so often, "female character" = "love interest." But, eh, that's a conversation that's been had a lot around here.

[(Anonymous)]

I noticed this a lot in House fanfic. House/AnyoneButWilson usually either had no mention of Wilson, or Wilson was an abusive controlling monster who was terrible for House.

[(Anonymous)]

"female characters get thrown under the bus in slash fic" bit is overblown in fandom

It's definitely been a prominent thing in fandom, but it was much more common years ago and I don't see it today even a fraction as much (to the point where I actually get a little surprised when it does happen).

[(Anonymous)]

People sort of went from blatant bashing to sort of quietly sweeping female characters under the rug.