[ SECRET POST #2925 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2925 ⌋

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Comments

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yes and I 100% agree with you. Though, I'm a queer chick (like, 75% hetero), and in every relationship with guys I've been in, my boyfriends has at times wanted nothing more than for me to cuddle them like babies and tell them everything will be alright. Sadly this is a dynamic I never see happen anywhere to males because in straight fanfic has to be so alpha and in slash fanfic, at least one of the canon characters has to be emotionally repressed that it seems out of character for him to participate.

It honestly makes me worry a little about the fanfiction writers and their love lives, their idea of how guys behave seem so based on media, and that can't possibly be healthy for anyone...

Re: OP

[lb_lee]

I suspect part of it is female fanfic writers often get trashed for writing men wrong, enough for there to be quite a few "how men actually behave" tutorials on the Internet, and so they try to compensate.

Hell, I used to do that before coming out, because I believed that I couldn't possibly be a "real man" since I didn't act like the guys in the books or movies.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I've seen those "how to write men who act like Real Men) tutorials before, as well as mockery directed at women who write men "wrong" or like/fantasize about less "manly" men.

I can find it annoying for several reasons - partly the policing of masculinity, the idea that all men have to act that way, and then the fact that men have to be written "realistically" (realistic according to the masculinity police types) even in fiction that's just meant to be a fantasy, when I don't think there's any such standard when it comes to writing about women. I mean, do people tell men who create "lesbian" porn for straight men that the women have to be realistic and act like real women or real lesbians (not that I think there is any one way for women or lesbians to act!), or are they fine with it being an unrealistic male fantasy? But people can only fantasize about men in a way that masculine/heteronormative men are okay with?

Re: OP

[lb_lee]

But anon, if women started writing men as fantasies, that might make them UNCOMFORTABLE! They might actually start questioning the idea of what women want, and realize that not all women want the same thing!

And then their heads would explode and WOULDN'T YOU BE SORRY THEN.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Quick, hide Mevius: Final Fantasy! The main character's outfit will kill us all!

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

You mean like women have been doing it for decades in romance novels?

This was probably way more serious of an answer than you wanted.

[lb_lee]

Ennnh. Romance novels are a fantasy, yes, but they are REALLY rigid about exactly what fantasy is peddled--or at least, they were five to ten years ago, when my mom was trying to get into the business. The genre restrictions are SUFFOCATING. Fanfic is way more lax about what you write.

(Seriously, my mom I remember had one manuscript get sent back, complaining that her hero didn't have an 'alpha' enough profession. He was a photographer; she had to change it to a journalist.)