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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-07 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2926 ]


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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-01-08 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
True. Although, I do think there are instances of authors getting the character wrong (nothing is ever going to convince me that anyone in the How I Met Your Mother final was in-character). But canon is still canon, and headcanons are great but aren't canon.

Well, maybe in-character at some point in the series.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I want to say, like, for seasons 1-3, it would have been plausible. But I think the problem was that they planned the finale early in the show and then, even though the characters had grown and changed, they really wanted to stick to their original plan (though I cannot for the life of me figure out why - I mean, it's got to be something other than sheer stubbornness, right?).
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Re: Well, maybe in-character at some point in the series.

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-01-08 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, totally. The basics were written back when it was in character, only the character developed past that. I think most authors understand that sometimes you need to change plans.

Re: Well, maybe in-character at some point in the series.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've heard (I've never watched the show, but I've picked up some gossip about it), they filmed the future-time shots back during season 1, so that the kids in them wouldn't look years older when they actually got around to the final season. Which locked them in to the ending those scenes implied, even though the story grew and changed in the telling.

Maybe they could have dumped those scenes, or tried to recontextualize them, but it would have ended up kind of clunky, changing the whole framing story like that.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think there's definitely exceptions, and in some cases you can point to how precisely a character's behavior made no sense. I mean, I had a lit professor once admit a character in something we were reading was acting out of character. Sometimes writers forget what they're doing. But I think there's a difference between saying "in season one, she was a vegetarian who went to protests, in season six she's hunting for sport and making fun of poor people with no acknowledgement of her previous beliefs*" and "fanfic writes Dracoinleatherpants better."

*Completely random example, though I sort of had Phoebe from Friends in mind. Sort of.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah occasionally I'll feel a writer is sacrificing a character for the sake of making them fit the plot.

Like if the character starts making choices or decisions that are in conflict of what they were show to do in the past with no explanation for it. And I'll consider that as veering out of character even though technically the character is doing it so it isn't.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and the worst part is it's so frustrating. For fuck's sake, how hard is it to write a character arc that shows how a character got from point a to point b? Or more usually point a to point s or z, because the evolution of characterization is less important than "plot" and they skip the middle. It's like a eating an ice cream sandwich that's missing the ice cream.