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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-07 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2926 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2926 ⌋

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elaminator: (Lord of the Rings: Faramir/Eowyn)

Re: fandom opinions

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-01-08 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't like what the film did with Denethor either; it's a pretty massive difference. (Faramir wasn't exactly the same either but he was still sympathetic and recognizable.)

Having not seen the third Hobbit film yet I can't speak to that, but I do find this gold sickness I've heard about (which was mentioned in the other films too) disappointing. Maybe it's just a fancy way of saying “Greed can drive one mad” and not an actual supernatural phenomenon, but idk. (I actually really liked how flawed Thorin is and was looking forward to seeing that struggle on screen. Idk what to expect now.)

Re: fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Denethor definitely got shafted in the movies.

IIRC, dwarves in the books were more prone to go greed-crazy over treasure than any of the other races of Middle-Earth, and at least a part of that was attributed to the influence of the Seven Rings. I don't recall it ever being referred to as a 'sickness' per se, though.

da

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
greed is a trait of dwarves going all the way back to the First Age, to their coveting the Nauglamir after making it for the elves. It isn't supernatural, it's a character flaw that dwarves have had all along - and it's fine. It's a lovely flaw. A natural dispensation to see all jeweled creations as being rightfully theirs? Such that it drives them to do stupid things like go on a quest to reclaim their treasure from a dragon? If Jackson tossed that aside for a ham-fisted suggestion of a sickness or warping or influence, he's even worse than I already thought him.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-01-08 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
That... kind of is a sickness, though? An innate vulnerability? Like, most people don't have this reaction to dwarves, but dwarves do have this reaction to gold. What is that if not a sickness?