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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-31 05:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #360 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 192 secrets from Secret Submission Post #052.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 linked back to the page ] broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, [ 1? 2? ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] repeats, [ 1 ] probably not for real.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Tuesday, January 1st, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Re: 16

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-01-01 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
And thank you for being so polite. I don't think all the people angsting over 16 are atheists, though. I believe I saw some pagan folks, and I imagine some folks of "generalized" beliefs. A lot of them seem to be going "Ah! Intolerance!" over a misunderstanding of Christian doctrine presented, which I think Queenie Z (was it her?) explained quite masterfully.

As it is... I'm wishing people would stop CONTRIBUTING to the obnoxious collective sense of persecution on the part of American Christians - screaming "intolerance!" "Bigot!" and "idiot!" at us for every little difference in doctrine from the "norm" isn't exactly good for normalizing us and making us more "tolerant."

That said, getting really worked up over the speculated-upon eternal fates of fictional characters we do not own is kind of silly, but who among us hasn't done silly things in fandom? I've gone to a message board to start treads about the deep philosophical messages in an anime series about science fiction gunslingers in the future. And I'm proud of it.

It's just, as Jafaria said earlier in the thread, if the OP cannot write fanfiction *without* drastically alterting all characters to be or become Christian (at least without a lot of believable exposition), there are some series they'll be best not to muck around with.

That said, I do vaguely recall hearing about some pagan-themed fanfics along a similar vein... Characters being turned into pagans because the author was pagan and wanted them to be pagan.

Re: 16

[identity profile] queenie-z.livejournal.com 2008-01-01 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Heheheheh, I did?? I'm flattered...! ^^;;;

Re: 16

[identity profile] elwing-alcyone.livejournal.com 2008-01-01 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That said, I do vaguely recall hearing about some pagan-themed fanfics along a similar vein... Characters being turned into pagans because the author was pagan and wanted them to be pagan.

Definitely. I've seen that in Harry Potter fandom a lot, usually done by girls in their early who think witch = Wicca and Wicca is so cool they absolutely must write about it. (For that reason I have the impression the 16 OP is quite young as well.) I'm a Wiccan, and inserting religion in accordance with one's own beliefs always bothers me, not necessarily because I think it's intolerant or preachy, but because most of the time, it sticks out like a sore thumb and pulls me out of the story.

I agree with your original point that writers wanting to do that should be very careful, and if in doubt keep the fic to themselves.

Re: 16

[identity profile] elwing-alcyone.livejournal.com 2008-01-01 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
*girls in their early TEENS

Re: 16

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-01-01 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I've had advice along such lines in regards to original writing, to not preach but to "let your faith color your writing." All I know is that I much preffered "The Chronicles of Narnia" and "The Lord of the Rings" and like books with more "subtle faith and allegory" over the parts of the "Left Behind" series that I've read.

Subtlety seems to play an even bigger role in fanfiction, particuarly since you aren't playing in your own sandbox - you have to respect the canon creator's sandbox (to a degree). (Nevermind that I don't think a lot of people respect the established sexualities of characters in some of those sandboxes enough, but that's a whole other drippy ball of wank). Religion is the most touchy of subjects in many cases, and using characters as a mouthpiece for *any* kind of religious or political viewpoint gets old fast (unless, of course, said canon character already fits the role).

I find the OP's secret rather sweet, although silly, (and I do also think that he/she must be young and new in online fandom/fanfiction), and just needed some friendly writing advice (rather than all the flaming).

Of course, because of all the flaming, I'm wondering if s/he's going to be like I was, back in my teenage years of being a Christian and turn on Pat Robertson, nod and agree that "Yes, the world really, really hates us, I just got confirmation of that" instead of trying to be out in the world/get along in society.